Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, October 15 2003 @ 02:42 AM CDT

I think I\'d riot if I had to sit through the Exploited and Total Chaos, (also after paying 15$). ughhhrrr

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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, October 15 2003 @ 07:40 AM CDT

\"punk rockers\":
once again pissed off that they couldn\'t go on being cunsumers like everyone else! ha!

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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, October 15 2003 @ 07:52 AM CDT

go to montreal indymedia for more accurate informations, as this is not completely accurate, there was more damage then this, in one image alone passed on local TV here in montreal we could see 6 cars on fire, well, just go read the article on montreal indymedia for more infos.

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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, October 15 2003 @ 08:02 AM CDT

I suppose the tear gas, pepper spray, and beatings are reserved for political marches once the blue bloc starts committing acts of violence.

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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, October 15 2003 @ 10:19 AM CDT

Well, the \"punk rockers\" probably didn\'t announce months in advance that they were going to show up to location X and prove how hard they are. They also probably didn\'t discuss for months on the internet the tactics they were going to use. Just a thought.

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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, October 15 2003 @ 12:13 PM CDT

yep...damn good point...if black blocs were as spontaneous as punk show riots we\'d really have an advantage...kind of difficult to figure out we\'d do that though...

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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, October 15 2003 @ 01:25 PM CDT

People who think this is just about consumerism are missing the point that the riot was sparked not just because the concert was cancelled but also because band members were denied entrance at the border most likely as a result of their political beliefs (or, at least, percieved political beliefs).

The Exploited \"Law for the Rich\"

Fuck with you fuck with me
They thing we fade away
Tory law nazi law its just the fucking same
Theres a law for the rich
A law for people like you and me
Theres a law for the rich
A law for people like you and me
Fuck the criminal justice bill
Shove it up your ass
Crimes on the increase
They blame the working class
Theres a law for the rich
A law for people like you and me
Theres a law for the rich
A law for people like you and me
Corruption in the government
Corruption in the crown
No justice in a system
Thats there to put you down

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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, October 15 2003 @ 01:27 PM CDT

The cops did show up in riot gear and did attack the crowd, I dont know what would make you think they would somehow make an exception for their \'beloved punk rock allies\' or whatever is going through your skull.

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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, October 15 2003 @ 01:41 PM CDT

At 2:40 PM on 15 Oct 03, this story was seen on CNN. Let\'s see how stupid people get about this now!

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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, October 15 2003 @ 02:49 PM CDT

we should bring more riots to \"tranquil and peaceful\" streets. funny enough, writing this is a form of \"crime\" ... crimethink, if you dare...

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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, October 15 2003 @ 03:14 PM CDT

Whoever said Montreal\'s streets are tranquil and peaceful probably lives in Westmount, or the suburbs.

The punks I know who were going could barely scrap enough cash to go, so I can understand them being pissed off. They were going to blow some steam off, well I guess they got to do that some other way instead.

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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, October 15 2003 @ 06:00 PM CDT

Pump up the volume! This looked shit hot on TV this morning,I must go to Montreal IMC and save some that.It did sound \'political\' in that the stop at the border was the trigger.Anyway the burning cars looked great,some punk even stuck around long enough to surf a bit on a early arriving cop car!HIT and RUN! FUCK YEAH!

\"God save the Queen,the fascist regime!\"

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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, October 15 2003 @ 06:01 PM CDT

Wonder how long before they arrest jaggi and his teddy bear?

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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, October 15 2003 @ 07:38 PM CDT

I\'m just comparing the reaction toward a non-political riot where vehicles get torched and shops nearly get looted to a political rally where some windows get smashed and the tear gas is unleashed. Some water cannon action took place, but I haven\'t seen any reports of the p1g5 beating down anyone they could get their hands on. I might need to read some more recent articles, though. I certainly wasn\'t saying anything about cops and punks, side by side or some such bizarreness, though if any members of the blue bloc wish to break ranks and join the black bloc heart and soul, that might be a picture worth taking:)

The point about the lack of prep is a good one, though I don\'t think it takes months of prep to grab the gas launchers and pepper spray tanks on their way to the stormtrooper carriers.

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Authored by: Anonymous on Wednesday, October 15 2003 @ 08:45 PM CDT

I read a story about the riot today before work, and thought... okay, hmmm. Whatever.

I didn\'t find out until tonight that it was because band members were banned at the border.

That\'s pretty relevant, and (assuming this was common knowledge) moves this into the political riot category IMHO.

It\'d be interesting to see which news outlets strategically ignored this very crucial little detail, or bumped it to the inside page/end of the article.

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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 16 2003 @ 12:28 AM CDT

Am I the only one here who recognizes that destroying ordinary people\'s cars -- most of which presumably belong to working class drivers -- is an appallingly stupid and counterproductive thing to do?

Trash the cops cars if you want, or chain stores (as opposed to struggling \"mom & pop\" shops) but what the fuck do you hope to accomplish by destroying ordinary people\'s (non-SUV) cars?

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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 16 2003 @ 02:18 AM CDT

yeah. that occured to me too.

i hate cars more than the next person, but if for some reason i needed a car and finally got one, and then it got torched...well, i think i\'d say \"what the fuck?!\"

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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 16 2003 @ 02:50 AM CDT

I also have to agree. I\'m barely making it buy just trying to afford my car in a place where it is necicary to have one. And if anything like that happened to my car I\'d probibly kick the shit out of the fool who did it. I mean unless you see a porche or bmw or something you don\'t know it\'s a rich person\'s car. So why trash something unless you know it will hurt your intended target, obviously in this case, the rich.

And I\'m suprised nobody knew about the band not being let in because of major criminal records. I herd it on the radio and the news boath today.

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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 16 2003 @ 03:17 AM CDT

something to keep in mind: the exploited are a bunch of fucking fascist assholes with a long history of racism and covert support for racist groups....don\'t be fucking conned by their bullshit \'punker-than-punk\' image, and if being a violent fascist fucko is just being \'punk rock\', then u can keep your fucking scene.
Support Real Punk Not This Shite!!

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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 16 2003 @ 03:23 AM CDT

Whew! Thank the stars that I\'m not the only one here who thinks that the often useful insurrectionary tool of mayhem should be carefully **politically targeted**, not just random (somewhere on this website is a communique from the collective that did most of the property destruction in the battle of Seattle, in which they explain their politically-motivated choice of targets -- it\'s worth reading for anyone who thinks that it\'s radical and cool to fuck shit up just for the sake of fucking shit up).

I lived for years without a car, then moved to a rural place where, like you Scavenger Type, a bicycle just can\'t get me where I need to go. So as someone who *hates* the internal combustion engine I looked for the least-damaging car on the market and bought a gas-electric hybrid with tailpipe emissions that are actually cleaner than the ambient air. But those hybrids are so new that at the time, I couldn\'t find a used one, so I\'m now up to my ears in automobile debt ... and to add insult to injury, the job that brought me out here to the boondocks just laid me off because of serious financial troubles. So if I saw some snot-nosed brat kid with a mohawk and a Misfits t-shirt (oh, how nonconformist!) -- whose mommy drove him to the Exploited gig -- fucking with my car, I\'d stick my boot so far up that kid\'s ass that it would take a team of proctologists hours in the E.R. to get it out.

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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 16 2003 @ 08:27 AM CDT

When the black bloc became another item in the checklist of cool points for mohawk punk teenagers trying to relive the early 1980s UK punk lifestyle, it became silly.

I know someone is going to try to defend it as if these people are working class kids whose anger comes from the heart, rather than privileged angry white kids living out some ridiculous stereotype they got in their head. Wrecking shit up on a couple of streets for an hour is not even a tiny step towards revolution, its just destruction. Another defense is these people don\'t participate in the black bloc, only intelligent working class anarchists do of a near pefect mix of age, race, and sex.

I have an ax to grind with stupid people, not the black bloc. Mindless stupidity even if it looks cool and revolutionary is no good.

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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 16 2003 @ 08:30 AM CDT

No way dude, they had mohawks in the 80s and they have songs with the word anarchy in it. They\'re totally revolutionary!!! Let\'s act like drunk spoiled sports fans and make some random destruction outside because we didn\'t get what we paid for and pretend it\'s revolutionary!!!

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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 16 2003 @ 11:34 AM CDT

Now that was a pretty incoherent comment. You say that you don\'t have an axe to grind with the black bloc, yet you diss people who do the BB several times. And the amount of anti-punk sentiment in the comments here is pretty depressing from a bunch of anarchists who are supposed to be tolerant. Shit, you would think that punk rock fans are investment bankers from the anger directed at them here.

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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 16 2003 @ 03:46 PM CDT

Well now you young whippersnapper, I was punk way back when you were still a twinkle in your daddy\'s eye ... oh, wait, you\'re a couple years older than me. Never mind.

Anyway, I just happen to have in my CD player right now the Bad Brains\' \"Rock for Light\" (the best hardcore recording in the entire history of the universe) so I\'m not anti-punk, just anti-stupid-fuck-punk.

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Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 16 2003 @ 04:07 PM CDT

up the punx...or whatever

montreal has made punk a threat again...

any other humours cliches?

it\'s really funny cuz there was a flyer distributed before TCD this year saying \"make punk a threat again in denver. join the anti-racist bloc! fight back!\" whatever the hell that means...but then montreal actually did it...

so whos up for a hipster bloc? if we\'re lucky desiel will use it as an advertisement.

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