Authored by: punk on Saturday, July 26 2008 @ 01:02 AM CDT

the only ignorance being displayed on this forum is that of people supporting this action. it is beyond annoying and shows a simple lack of historical and human analysis.

The Lincoln brigade happend to be the path to take for those in this country, and ireland, who wanted to go fight fascism, something most people here have never and will never do.

There were anarchists, iwws, socialists, democratic socialists, and yes the dreaded authoritarian trots and of course Stalinist who ended up in leadership positions. To paint the entire brigade as a bunch of Stalinist nazis in dishonest and dogmatic.

And what really is bizarre is a bunch of pretentious san franciso anarchists, in the year 2007, would actually spend time and risk to deface a historical memorial.

I know the vets who have shifted their views or never had stalinist views to begin with and although they are now dead i know they were still proud of what they did and although would welcome debate from anarchists would not appreciate of bunch of kids doing this stupid thing

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Authored by: lawrence on Saturday, July 26 2008 @ 02:35 AM CDT

I'm not sure why you are jumping to the conclusion that people are supporting this action. I have posted nothing about supporting it. What I do not support is the cringing apologia for the "Lincolns" that you and others here have made, showcasing your monumental ignorance of the composition and goals of the Lincoln Battalion in particular, and the International Brigades in general.

What's "human analysis"?

If the IB happened to be the only path for those who wanted to fight in Spain, then why and how were there American volunteers in CNT militias? They organized themselves into the Sacco-Vanzetti centuria. Look it up. Many of the non-CPers who ended up in the IBs went over to the militias where they felt more political affinity; the IB cops hunted them down, charged them with "desertion" and often put them in punishment battalions (digging trenches, clearing minefields, all unarmed) when they didn't shoot them outright. You can look that up too.

You are the one equating Stalinists with nazis. Laure used the SS as an analogy, not as a way to say they're all the same. Learn how to read with comprehension.

Are you sure it's 2007? I suggest you stop using whatever your mind-altering drug(s) of choice is/are.

Hasn't the enhancement of the monument stirred up enough debate for you?

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