Authored by: Anonymous on Thursday, October 12 2006 @ 01:52 AM CDT

You're coming from the right place, but you might not be considering some things.
1) The bourgeois notion of "free speech" is rooted in the bourgeois notion of "rights" which are concieved from a certain frame of mind. Rights in this frame of mind are not guidelines for interacting as a member of society but guidelines for regulating society from an entity independent of society, be it a government bureaucracy, a monotheistic entity, revolutionaries dreaming about the world will be organized after the revolution, etc. In short, thinking in terms of a computer game player rather than as a Sim. (Silly analogy, but the best I could come up with)
2) If you concieve of "rights" as guidelines for interaction in society as a member of society in the here and now, a lot of these classical liberal cows are slaughtered. For example
2a) If someone is exercising their "right" to organize around the basis of causing harm to other moral agents, you have the equal right (more like responsibility) to prevent that from happening. Even bourgeois states represent a distinction between "free speech" and "harassment', albeit a crude one that protects the racist status quo. Following a woman with a child in her hand while continuously making verbal threats to molest the child is NOT by any means free speech. How is going around threatening to enforce the racist establishment free speech?
2b) In the here-and-now, there is no public forum of free expression. Attacking members of the groups that dominate expression is not attacking their right to free expression any more than criticizing the racist establishment is "reverse racism".

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Authored by: Anonymous on Friday, October 13 2006 @ 12:32 PM CDT

So let them have their little speech, and come in after they're done rambling. The audience was clearly, absolutely, a group of minorities who were only there to see what the Minutemen had to say (and probably heckle their damn selves). There is no way anyone could've *not* seen that the audience would act the way they did. The Minutemen were *obviously* dominated in that scenario. I pity their stupid asses for thinking they were even welcome there.

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