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Imagine that hundreds of black protesters were to descend upon Washington DC and Northern Virginia, just a few miles from the Capitol and White House, armed with AK-47s, assorted handguns, and ammunition. And imagine that some of these protesters —the black protesters — spoke of the need for political revolution, and possibly even armed conflict in the event that laws they didn’t like were enforced by the government?

"Imagine if the Tea Party Was Black"

Tim Wise
April 22, 2010

Let’s play a game, shall we? The name of the game is called “Imagine.” The way it’s played is simple: we’ll envision recent happenings in the news, but then change them up a bit. Instead of envisioning white people as the main actors in the scenes we’ll conjure - the ones who are driving the action - we’ll envision black folks or other people of color instead. The object of the game is to imagine the public reaction to the events or incidents, if the main actors were of color, rather than white. Whoever gains the most insight into the workings of race in America, at the end of the game, wins.

So let’s begin.

Imagine that hundreds of black protesters were to descend upon Washington DC and Northern Virginia, just a few miles from the Capitol and White House, armed with AK-47s, assorted handguns, and ammunition. And imagine that some of these protesters —the black protesters — spoke of the need for political revolution, and possibly even armed conflict in the event that laws they didn’t like were enforced by the government? Would these protester — these black protesters with guns — be seen as brave defenders of the Second Amendment, or would they be viewed by most whites as a danger to the republic? What if they were Arab-Americans? Because, after all, that’s what happened recently when white gun enthusiasts descended upon the nation’s capital, arms in hand, and verbally announced their readiness to make war on the country’s political leaders if the need arose.

Imagine that white members of Congress, while walking to work, were surrounded by thousands of angry black people, one of whom proceeded to spit on one of those congressmen for not voting the way the black demonstrators desired. Would the protesters be seen as merely patriotic Americans voicing their opinions, or as an angry, potentially violent, and even insurrectionary mob? After all, this is what white Tea Party protesters did recently in Washington.

Imagine that a rap artist were to say, in reference to a white president: “He’s a piece of shit and I told him to suck on my machine gun.” Because that’s what rocker Ted Nugent said recently about President Obama.

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guns aren\'t racist, people are.
Authored by: sumonesez on Monday, April 26 2010 @ 09:23 AM CDT

I just wanted to mention that the Black Panthers used to carry guns in California and that's why California made stricter gun laws prohibiting anyone from carrying firearms in public. The new laws did not stop violent crime, but they hindered the efforts of the Panthers and made it harder for them to defend themselves. Gun controll laws won't stop violent criminals and right wingers from obtaining guns. They can be smuggled, and illegelly manufactured, and millitary can still own them and cops can give them(even machine guns!) to their friends in times of "emergency" and form a posse. And so I say we should not let our fear of right wing extremists and violent criminals drive us to take away our second ammendment, or we will be the ones who are unarmed, not those we fear.

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guns aren't racist, people are.
Authored by: Oread Daily on Monday, April 26 2010 @ 11:17 PM CDT

I do not disagree about guns. I am not someone who wants to outlaw them.

What I would add to your comment (and I don't think you'd disagree) is to point out the large number of Panthers who were killed by cops, arrested and jailed. I would also mention that some of those very Panthers, BLA members, and others are STILL in prison.

Oh yes, the reaction of the state to people of color with guns is a wee different than it is to conservative white folks with guns. Usually it's even different than it is to left white folks with guns. For example, I was convicted in the 70s in a federal bombing conspiracy and served some federal time, some being the operative word here. Had I been black l would have likely served a whole lot more time. In fact, two black men convicted in a bombing case not too far away from mine at about the same time are STILL in prison. I'm not clamoring to be sent back to prison, just pointing out the depths of white skin privlige even when you are trying to reject it.

Someone objecting to the above contention may point to the long prison sentences handed down to Maralyn Buck or Kathy Boudin, for example or the fact that David Gilbert is still in prison. Need I mention that all three were associated with the Black Liberation Army. They were white folks who were just too clear in their understanding of white skin privlige and too closely associated with blacks (the power structure just hates that sort of thing, sets a bad example)...kind of reminds of you of John Brown, don't it. They hung that old white dude.

By the way, unlike most Americans, as a convicted felon I cannot own a weapon of any kind.  I might also point out just for fun that figures we often talk about concerning the over representation of black males convicted of felony offenses translates not just into a reduction in voting rights but a reduction in the right to bear arms.  Hmmm...

  

 

 

Edited on Monday, April 26 2010 @ 11:34 PM CDT by Oread Daily
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Imagine if the Tea Party Was Black
Authored by: Fire Works on Monday, April 26 2010 @ 06:58 PM CDT

Consider that FBI raid last month on the Hutaree: instead of a group of armed white Christians in Michigan planning on using roadside bombs and machine guns to start a holy war, it had been a group of Muslim Somali-Americans in Minneapolis who wanted to set up sharia law for the USA. Would the press call them a "Muslim patriots militia" they way that they all seemed to call the Hutaree "Christian patriots militia"? Or would they use another word that's been en vogue since September 2001? 

Tim Wise goes to this Gedankenexperiment well quite a bit--- his "This is Your Nation On White Privilege" essay from Sept '08 on Sarah Palin is better than this one.

Instead of recycling some of the old examples that he does here (Ann Coulter & Timothy McVeigh, for example), he should have just stuck strictly with the contemporary antics & rhetoric of the "Tea Party" Party-- there's plenty there to work with. That would've made it a stronger and more relevant piece.

 

Edited on Monday, April 26 2010 @ 07:30 PM CDT by Fire Works
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Imagine if the Tea Party Was Black
Authored by: Oread Daily on Monday, April 26 2010 @ 11:19 PM CDT

I disagree.  You can't go to the well too often in this country in the battle against white skin privlige.

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Imagine if the Tea Party Was Black
Authored by: Fire Works on Tuesday, April 27 2010 @ 03:10 AM CDT

I didn't say that Wise should stop talking about white privilege.

What I said was that he's done this "Let's look at current events and pretend that they were people of color instead of white people" schtick two or three times before and that this piece would've been more effective if he stuck with talking about the Teabaggers instead of recycling the same exact thought-experiments that he's done in those previous pieces. 

(And for those who don't know from Oread's post, Marilyn Buck is still in federal prison in California.)

 

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down with racism! up with equality!
Authored by: sumonesez on Tuesday, April 27 2010 @ 02:21 AM CDT

Oread daily- right on my friend! what you say is so true! Here's another example; Mumia Abu Jamal is such an elloquent intelligent speaker, and it should be obvious to anyone who actually pays any attention to the facts, that his trial was unfair (to say the least), and he's still on death row, I think it is safe to speculate that if a white man had been accused of killing a black cop, he would have had a much lesser sentence even if he was totally racist. He might even be out by now. Your story is interesting.Were you involved with S.D.S.? nevermind, it's not my business and it's a change of subject. Any way, I believe you when you say that you would have had a worse fate had you been black. I also really appreciate what you said about felons and firearms and voting rights.  With a racially biased judicial system, and in a society which has so much inequality and gentrification, people of color have an economic disadvantage and as a result , they are more likely to turn to whatever it takes to put food on the table and to have a home etc. which, for some, may include some illegal acts. People of color are far more likely to get stopped by the police and searched, adding to the statistics, while a white person is likely cruise past the cops with drugs on them and not get stopped or searched. So if an unfair amount of people of color are being put in the position of economic disadvantage, which might make them more likely to commit a crime, and they are also being targeted by cops, and  then they are also losing rights such as the right to bear arms or vote as a result of the conviction, then it seems like the laws were designed for that purpose and if we make more such laws they will hurt people of color more than they hurt those of us with "white privilege". Also being a felon makes it really hard to find legitimate employment, which further perpetuates the disadvantage leading them to consider "alternative" sources of income. When a father or a mother gets arrested and has their rights stripped away from them, their kids have less support and are more likely to grow up further disadvantaged. This perpetuates the racial class divide.

The tea partiers are angry, not because the system is racist, or corrupt, or because the government has violated their constitutional rights, but because they miss the "good ole days" when their white privilege allowed them to believe that the system worked great. They used to enjoy abundance and prosperity, and they hardly even noticed the "others" who were not so well off, but now that they are starting to feel a little bit of the economic pressure, they are rushing to blame anyone but their "own kind" (meaning the economically privileged calss of mostly white folks). It is far easier to accuse President Obama of things like being a socialist commie and the anti-christ, than to admit that the capitalist system is full of greed and corruption and it took a lot of white capitalist presidents to get things as screwed up as they are now, and some regulation is necessary. (I'm not trying to say Obama is a saint, but he's not exactly the devil either. He's just a figurehead, a puppet just like bush and every other president). The Tea Partiers also find it easier to blame the immigrants who come here looking for work or the companies who close a factory here in the U.S. and open one in another country for "stealing American jobs" than it is for them to blame free trade and global capitalism and our nafta for screwing those people into the desperation which drives them northward in search of work. By the same arguement, the "pilgrims", colonialists, the "founding fathers", etc. should have been arrested by  Native American immigration agents and made to wear pink like the detained illegal immigrants do in Maricopa County, Arizona, and then deported back to Europe. The Tea Partiers are so angry about the things Obama does, but not so much about the increase in drone bombing of civilians since he came into office, or the increase in troops and mercenaries, or the increase in oil and coal and natural gas and extraction, and not about nuclear proliferation, or the use of depleted uranium munitions, no, they are angry about federal regulation and taxes and being forced to pay. They were against the idea of single payer health care almost to the point of revolution, but where were these same angry demonstrators while Bush was president? they were enjoying their class privilege and as long as they had good pay and a white republican in the white house they were complacent.   The tea partiers just want freedom and liberty for themselves, but care little if any for the well being and freedom of everyone else.

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