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Ex-organizer Obama says he was never a fan of mass protests

Anti-Capitalist MovementIf any President might sympathize with the thousands of protesters expected to flood Pittsburgh this week for the G-20 summit, it would be the one who used to be a community organizer. But in an Oval Office interview Friday with The Blade and its sister paper, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, President Obama said while working on Chicago's South Side in the 1980s, he was not an advocate of mass protests such as the ones planned for this week. "Probably not," Mr. Obama said when asked if he might have been holding a sign then. "I was always a big believer in - when I was doing organizing before I went to law school - that focusing on concrete, local, immediate issues that have an impact on people's lives is what really makes a difference and that having protests about abstractions [such] as global capitalism or something, generally, is not really going to make much of a difference."




Ex-organizer says he was never a fan of mass protests
By DANIEL MALLOY
BLOCK NEWS ALLIANCE

WASHINGTON - If any President might sympathize with the thousands of protesters expected to flood Pittsburgh this week for the G-20 summit, it would be the one who used to be a community organizer.

But in an Oval Office interview Friday with The Blade and its sister paper, the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, President Obama said while working on Chicago's South Side in the 1980s, he was not an advocate of mass protests such as the ones planned for this week.

"Probably not," Mr. Obama said when asked if he might have been holding a sign then. "I was always a big believer in - when I was doing organizing before I went to law school - that focusing on concrete, local, immediate issues that have an impact on people's lives is what really makes a difference and that having protests about abstractions [such] as global capitalism or something, generally, is not really going to make much of a difference."

The protesters and the potential for violence and disruption of the Group of 20 Summit have been a hot topic in Pittsburgh since May, when Mr. Obama chose the city as the site of the summit. The city plans to line up about 4,000 police officers, with significant help from surrounding jurisdictions, and 2,000 National Guard soldiers will be on call if protests spiral out of control.

Mr. Obama said demonstrations - a key feature of any gathering of world leaders or central bankers - are a sign of a healthy democracy, but he doesn't agree with many of the protesters' views. He urged dissatisfied workers to understand that globalization is inevitable.

"I think that's part of what makes America wonderful is people have a lot of different opinions," Mr. Obama said.

"We've got a robust and sometimes contentious democracy, but if you think about what's happened to our economy - there was a period of time in which heavy industry took a beating in this country and we didn't respond as quickly as we should have. And we then had the choice of trying to pretend that change wasn't coming and trying to close the world off from that change, and that's just not possible."

Though the protesters' topics range from war to global warming to anarchy, many are concerned about the economy and hold
G-20 policies in part responsible for the global recession. The working class has been hit the hardest, they say, but has not benefited from large bailouts.

Mr. Obama said the nations are doing their best to dig out of the recession, and if some of the protesters would give the plans a chance, they might approve.

"One of the things that we'll highlight at the G-20 - and maybe the protesters are missing this - is that I and other world leaders are very interested in making sure that the excesses of global finance are reined in," he said, "that we've got a regulatory framework and structure that assures you are not seeing the sorts of abuses that resulted in this most recent financial crisis that did create enormous hardship for Main Street."

The Block News Alliance consists of The Blade and the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Daniel Malloy is a reporter for the Post-Gazette.

Contact him at:
dmalloy@post-gazette.com
or 202-445-9980.

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Ex-organizer Obama says he was never a fan of mass protests
Authored by: communitycntrl on Tuesday, September 22 2009 @ 02:51 PM UTC
the thing Obama pretends to not understand is that protests in the streets this week will help his efforts to get banks to agree to financial regulatory reforms.

i guarantee you that if shit kicks off this week in PGH he will be using those protests as a threat to banks to get them to agree to reforms:
"deal with me and make reforms or those protests are going to keep growing....."

unfortunately he will only try to get them to agree to go as far as he wants them to in reforming, not anywhere near far enough.

but keep your heads up everyone, protests DO work, they don't produce some concrete policy result usually that can directly be attributed to the protesters (except for the Seattle WTO), but they force actions that are favorable to the millions of working and middle class people in the country to happen.

just like the riots were used by MLK in the 60s to get the govt to sit down and agree to his more limited demands of civil rights, and the anti-colonial violence in India got the British to sit down with ghandi, so to we will get the banks quaking in their boots with a good day of expressive angry protest.
Ex-organizer Obama says he was never a fan of mass protests
Authored by: laozi on Tuesday, September 22 2009 @ 03:02 PM UTC
we'll see. O.O
Ex-organizer Obama says he was never a fan of mass protests
Authored by: communitycntrl on Tuesday, September 22 2009 @ 04:28 PM UTC
mass protests are just the tip you can see of an iceberg of change that they create.

their effect reverberates long after the protest is over.
in fact, i just watched footage from the WTO in seattle in my sociology class a few weeks ago. i was surprised to see it still being used to teach people.

the reverberations go far beyond what we realize.
Ex-organizer Obama says he was never a fan of mass protests
Authored by: lettersjournal on Tuesday, September 22 2009 @ 09:58 PM UTC
I doubt y'all prefigure 'the capitalism to come' as much much as you give yourselves credit for.
Ex-organizer Obama says he was never a fan of mass protests
Authored by: communitycntrl on Wednesday, September 23 2009 @ 12:11 AM UTC
i think you under-estimate the universe of extreme sensitivity and fear that politicians exist within, although their memory is relatively short, so the source of fear changes quickly.
Ex-organizer Obama says he was never a fan of mass protests
Authored by: engine summer on Wednesday, September 23 2009 @ 11:24 AM UTC
i'm sorry, but why is this on here? who gives a fuck what that pig thinks.
Ex-organizer Obama says he was never a fan of mass protests
Authored by: Brennus on Wednesday, September 23 2009 @ 02:57 PM UTC
I dunno, his line pitting concrete community goals against abstract protests was pretty legit. Better this is up than some ANSWER bullshit about an anti-war protest.
Ex-organizer Obama says he was never a fan of mass protests
Authored by: engine summer on Thursday, September 24 2009 @ 11:17 AM UTC
sorta, not really, i mean he actually calls global capitalism an abstraction; he's not critiquing the anticapitalist movement for its lack of specificity and concreteness; he's obscuring the concrete existence of a social reality in which he's a major figure - politician bullshit like everything else this dude has to say. a friend of mine who works at our infoshop wrote him a letter recently about the uc budget cuts and was actually offended when i pointed out he couldnt possibly give a shit. wtf is up with his spell on people?!
Ex-organizer Obama says he was never a fan of mass protests
Authored by: Admin on Thursday, September 24 2009 @ 11:56 AM UTC
If you don't like this being here, you'll be disappointed when Infoshop News starts posting more articles like this.

One of the things that turns me off of anarchists is this damn attitude that we have all the answers and have no need to engage with normal people. If we can't articulate our criticisms of President Obama, then what the fuck are we doing? Nobody is going to listen to us if we insist on playing in our own sandbox where we only talk to other anarchists.

And I'll point out yet again that Infoshop News has always been a news service run by anarchists with a variety of content aimed at anarchists and non-anarchists. We have never run (and will never run) a news service that only serves anarchists.

Chuck0
Ex-organizer Obama says he was never a fan of mass protests
Authored by: engine summer on Thursday, September 24 2009 @ 01:00 PM UTC
huh?? chucko, once again you confuse the shit out of me.
*i* am the one criticizing obama here. this article is just a re-post of some boring-ass things he said. im sure it s well available in the mainstream media. you still havent explained the relevance to having it on this site. at least his face isnt on the left side of hte page anymore. god, that was annoying.
Ex-organizer Obama says he was never a fan of mass protests
Authored by: communitycntrl on Thursday, September 24 2009 @ 01:46 PM UTC
i posted this so i guess i'll explain my logic.

first of all, i definitely agree with your criticism of obama that he just trying to obscure our concrete problems with global capitalism, and obscure the fact that the problems with capitalism on the global level have an impact on the grassroots problems that he thinks people should focus on. it makes sense to fight foreclosures by pointing out that they are happening because of national and global economic policy and not just fight them one by one in our own towns, because you are not stopping the root causes.

i posted this because:
a) it is good to know that people in power are taking notice and worried about these protests we are organizing, because sometimes it seems like they make no difference.
b) you have to know how your enemy perceives you. know thy enemy.
c) so you can anticipate the response to the protests when they happen and counter that response, in this case by pointing out concrete examples to the media of how global capitalism effects individuals' lives.

obama is just another politician. he is just like clinton. and as under clinton, people organized and mobilized over the 8 years of his presidency to push for changes he wasn't making (since they couldn't be bought off into working to get the democrats elected as the way to make changes like during a GOP administration) and those 8 years of local and regional struggles culminated at the WTO protest in seattle when groups who, after 8 years to build a deeper and deeper analysis of the problems they were fighting against realized that those problems go all the way to the top, to the national and international policies of groups like the WTO.
let's hope it doesn't again take 8 years to get to that point of analysis.
and let's hope pittsburgh can push that timeline along.