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What We Know about Summits AKA Why We’re Going to Pittsburgh AKA You Should Feel What I Feel Getting Wild

Anarchist OpinionWhat Do We Know? The G20 will meet in Pittsburgh, PA Sept. 24 – 25th. There will be a lot of police, a lot of people, and a few opportunities to take part in the production of images. The image of revolt survives its 15 minutes of anonymity, but only for some. It is audible to those who are trying to listen. The image of revolt also communicates a pure gesture—the gesture's capture by the media is never enough to recuperate it totally. A certain intelligence can evade this maneuver and can stretch out the gesture of revolt—its resonance and its duration.

What We Know about Summits
AKA
Why We’re Going to Pittsburgh
AKA
You Should Feel What I Feel Getting Wild

“This is how we learn, this is how we fight.”

What Do We Know?



1. The G20 will meet in Pittsburgh, PA Sept. 24 – 25th. There will be a lot of police, a lot of people, and a few opportunities to take part in the production of images.

2. The image of revolt survives its 15 minutes of anonymity, but only for some. It is audible to those who are trying to listen. The image of revolt also communicates a pure gesture—the gesture's capture by the media is never enough to recuperate it totally. A certain intelligence can evade this maneuver and can stretch out the gesture of revolt—its resonance and its duration.

3. The image we want is an absent one. Noise. Static.

4. There is a certain delight the Left takes in the image of mass marches, repressed pacifists, and young people making a bit of trouble. There is a certain delight the police take in the image of ordered crowds, or an ass whooping cheerfully dispensed.

5. Nonviolence begets nonviolence.

6. May 1st 09, US, San Francisco, CA: a medium-sized crowd attacked a high-fashion center of the city. Asheville, NC: after an occupied warehouse party a larger crowd attacked developers, and condos. Milwaukee, WI: a tiny crowd attacked shops.

7. Worldwide: T-shirts become masks; anything that can be uprooted becomes a barricade; bottles, rocks—slightly heavy objects gain flight; everything that can be destroyed is destroyed—especially what we like. Name a city—it's going down. (Anywhere ya meet me guarantee to going down)

8. Just because we are not that important doesn't mean we cannot be assistants (see: Kafka).


Two Recent Experiments:



Experiment One “Unconventional Action against the presidential elections will reinvigorate the anarchist movement”

Hypotheses: “There can be revolt without a social movement” or “Revolt can spawn a social movement (See: Seattle Myth) or “Social movements are made up of revolt without unity”

Results:
With a year of “organizing,” the anarchist-activist subculture was able to build up hype, and locate complicity with the Left (see: St. Paul Principles). Whereas the anarchist movement was reinvigorated; whereas ties were strengthened and new bonds were found, the outcome was not as any organizers had expected. The specter of a more terrible insurrectional constellation now haunts radical politics.

DNC, Denver: Policing and the Left effectively neutralize any potential conflict. Liberal politics dominate (see: What do We Know? Thesis 4). Lack of shared intimacy and preparation. However, as predicted new and old bonds are tied.

RNC, St. Paul: Social conflict, a bit of cruelty, a bit of care. Improvisation and technical intelligence allow some to interrupt aspects of the flow of the metropolis. Repression of RNC-Welcoming Committee was directed and precise, but techniques at crowd control failed slightly. Whatever defeat was suffered in the street early on by SPD, was avenged by the National Guard.

Experiment Two “The secret is to really begin (wrecking shit)”

Hypothesis: “In an era of permanent counterinsurgency, to be located is to be neutralized. If the fixed and durable location of anarchism is compatible with capitalism, it will survive; if not, it will be raided with gunships and robot soldiers. Either way, there is no threat to the system. And counterinsurgency is not merely a military fact. Socially, fixed identity allows and even encourages the development of contiguous identities and competing identities. The former, amenable to their niche roles within capitalism, become indistinguishable from the identity they border on (not in a chronological process of recuperation, but as a characteristic of the social terrain); this is "anarcho-liberalism," the necessary complement of "pure" anarchist identity. The latter (competing identities) force anarchism into perpetual self-advertisement, which, by making anarchy a choice from a list of political options, prevents even the strictest anarchists from developing practices that reveal the possibility of a life not structured by commodity consumption. Finally, the ethical location, by equating antagonism with exclusion, facilitates techniques of self-management and self-policing that reduce to a minimum the elements of unpredictability.”

Results: From the Northwest across the Midwest, and up and down the East and West coasts, there have been different frequencies of revolt. We can trace a line of desire through these places and locate territories of social war—not in the places, but in the events (see: What Do We Know, Thesis 6).

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The G20 is not the end of history. It will most likely not even be an historical event. It has the potential to be, but that is not our concern. We are not positioned to shut down the meeting and we are not interested in having our voices heard. To demands for a democratic consensus, we contribute silence. To demands for political harmony, we contribute atonality.
G20 is an opportunity. It is a myth that we can use to our advantage. The simple formula both anarchists and the remnants of the Left are counting on is this: capitalism is in crisis; the G20 is a face of capitalism; to protest the G20 is to protest capitalism. Affective confrontations at the G20 will present a social cost of economic crisis. In the past it would present a social cost for “undemocratic and unaccountable policies.” Currently, we are better situated to protest capitalism as an idea than we were in '01, but as the G20 in London showed, a trade summit can merely function as a collective thesis against capitalism—to be purchased by indignant activists, and then placed next to a new copy of The Coming Insurrection. Capitalism is not at idea, it is an assemblage of practices. The point is to make it stop functioning.
Capitalism does not faces us, it hold us. In its extreme phase, capitalism is the system that structures all relationships into flows of capital. We use the myth of the “G20 = capitalism” to our advantage, by refusing to produce an image that protests an idea, but rather materially interrupts everything it can—especially the technologies which produce the image. If we are abandoning the vapid discourse of protest in search of a concrete offensive of social war, then the G20 summit can be put to use only as a convergence of antagonistic subjectivities and as an experiment at interrupting their function in capitalism—how to become non-functional in the metropolis; how to become a contagious error.
A trade summit happens at a node of the metropolitan network, and as such opens up a space of subversion and a space of militarization of policing. It is a place for activists to do activism wrong, but it is also a place for the anti-social behavior of others—the good-for-nothing urban and suburban youth—to form a complicity against the function of capitalism. On the one hand more confrontation is possible with police; on the other, more intense forms of repression are deployed. It is a game of position, and one which is played with speed, territory, and initiative. And the decisive actions of groups of friends are what defines our position.
A trade summit in friendly territory lets our nomadic practices work in our favor. The G20 is happening in Pittsburgh, a city with a sizable anarchist presence, and with an active insurrectional territory. In enemy territories, it is necessary to deterritorialize, in order to leave in place new myths—a defeated police action, an affective confrontation, a rupture with the commodity relation. Wilding out has lasting affects when its force of seduction and its force of resonance cannot be discounted by others who wish to feast on the ruin of capital.
The security forces believe they need 4000 law enforcers to prevent out-of-control situations. Pittsburgh has around 900 police officers, and so far has received support from 400 highway patrol, leaving an additional 2700 law enforcement unaccounted. Likely, they will come from national guard.
If we go to where the police are, there will undoubtedly be a fight. If we can't win a fight with the police on the terms of physical conflict, we need to locate vulnerabilities and exploit them—even a just few blocks away. We need to act decisively with speed and initialize the conflicts we want.

If 400 highway patrol are in the city, then 400 highway patrol are not on the PA highway. If police are forced to be everywhere, they can't effectively be anywhere. If there is a police state in Pittsburgh, then there is not one where these forces have come from. We know how to travel. Make plans, be ready.

The wildness in St. Paul lasted about an hour, with a couple hundred participating. It was not publicly announced, or posted online.

I find myself in you.

With a thousand friends, we can achieve just about anything we want in a city. With a few hundred, we can achieve other things. Isolated we can achieve nothing.

We go to Pittsburgh to become a thousand others; if not, we will become a few hundred. We will not be isolated.

For a rupture with capital, and the annihilation of the state-form,
-a Node in a terrible Community

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What We Know about Summits AKA Why We’re Going to Pittsburgh AKA You Should Feel What I Feel Getting Wild
Authored by: jay pee on Tuesday, June 30 2009 @ 05:48 PM UTC

...Been reading Sun Tzu, eh?

For those joining us late, it can be found in most chain bookstores for around $4. It is short. You will like it. It goes best with a gin cocktail.
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Authored by: tehanarchy on Tuesday, June 30 2009 @ 08:44 PM UTC
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What We Know about Summits AKA Why We’re Going to Pittsburgh AKA You Should Feel What I Feel Getting Wild
Authored by: fmlasap on Tuesday, June 30 2009 @ 10:34 PM UTC
So tired of MOP.

Much Better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvJWsp-AwUI#

What We Know about Summits AKA Why We’re Going to Pittsburgh AKA You Should Feel What I Feel Getting Wild
Authored by: blackhand on Wednesday, July 01 2009 @ 11:34 AM UTC
i wanna to go Pittsburgh just to see what the dance party playlist is going to be
What We Know about Summits AKA Why We’re Going to Pittsburgh AKA You Should Feel What I Feel
Authored by: femin(A)zi on Tuesday, June 30 2009 @ 10:57 PM UTC
brownsville, huh?

when's the last time you were hanging out there?
What We Know about Summits AKA Why We’re Going to Pittsburgh AKA You Should Feel What I Feel
Authored by: tehanarchy on Wednesday, July 01 2009 @ 03:05 PM UTC
* SUMMITS ARE THE ONLY WAY WE CAN BUILD CAPACITY.
* SUMMITS ARE THE ONLY WAY WE CAN FIND EACH OTHER.
* SUMMITS ARE THE ONLY WAY WE CAN ACHIEVE OUR GOALS.
* SUMMITS USE SMALL WORDS THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND.
* ANYONE WHO DISAGREES HAS READ TO MUCH SUN TSU.

Rinse and repeat.

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I'm going to Pittsburg to drink slushies and watch terminator.
What We Know about Summits AKA Why We’re Going to Pittsburgh AKA You Should Feel What I Feel
Authored by: talia on Wednesday, July 01 2009 @ 09:22 PM UTC
Honestly, who makes that argument? No one that I know of, and I know at least one person who regularly has these conversations with you.

If anything, it's more like

*THE SUMMIT MODEL HAS ITS FLAWS BUT PEOPLE WHO CRITIQUE IT HAVE YET TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WORKS BETTER (other than perhaps rinsing and repeating hip-hop lyrics)

...and it's true.
What We Know about Summits AKA Why We’re Going to Pittsburgh AKA You Should Feel What I Feel
Authored by: tehanarchy on Thursday, July 02 2009 @ 12:03 AM UTC
"Honestly, who makes that argument?"

Honestly who puts it into practice? Although people aren't that cut in dry their arguments, at the end of the day the result is same. A small group of people put the majority of their energy/emphasis on practically useless spectacles that drain that groups resources and are gone just as quick as it came.

Its not that people haven't expressed new ideas. As a matter of fact folks are consistantly bringing up and putting into practice different means of emphasizing on our strengths and not our enemies. To which the response is repeatedly the same stagnet dismissive, "People have brought that up before!" or "Get your nose out of the art of war!".

Its not that people aren't bringing up new ideas and summits fall back as our default. Its that those whom are pushing for the continuation of the summit model are clearly intent on pretending those ideas don't exist or dismissing them whenever they arise.

[insert witty faceless internet stab here]







What We Know about Summits AKA Why We’re Going to Pittsburgh AKA You Should Feel What I Feel
Authored by: alta fuoco on Thursday, July 02 2009 @ 01:03 AM UTC
It might be that people are practicing different experiments which focus on our strength, and also experimenting with summits as something different than a protest when the summit opportunity comes along. Maybe it's not the best to go to every summit, and try to make that what we do, but to go to the ones which appear to be a bit more in our favor, either because as the article mentions, the summit is happening in a friendly territory, or because our strengths and desire would be elaborated at the summit--because all our friends who we know, and we know are up for it will be there. Either way, being light about it may be quite different than being all "we need to shut this down!"

I mean, the experiment (2) in the article points directly to at least one different way of an offensive retreat from summits. However the nomad still moves between points, even if the process of moving between points is what matters.

I think the Art of War is cool, but unless its read through a biopolitical lens, it might not do so much for a struggle against everything. Who is the enemy in social war? (there might be an answer...or perhaps it's the wrong question)
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Authored by: basil on Thursday, July 02 2009 @ 03:25 PM UTC
I think that our abandoning the summit model doesn't necessarily mean that we need to GTFO of whatever city a summit may be happening in. As this article articulated, terrain has been way-problematized (that shit about the highways, as an example from the piece). Regardless of what may or may not be happening in that city at the time, what do we know for sure? All of our friends are going to be there because they want to make-out with eachother or feel powerful or something.

Hypothesis: A lot of bad people can use the excuse of a summit to get together and do bad things without engaging with the summit at all. Instead, we can avoid (no, use) the securitization in the wrong way. We can get together and become something that isn't dictated by the terrain of activism, can't we?
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Authored by: lettersjournal on Thursday, July 02 2009 @ 08:29 AM UTC
"THE SUMMIT MODEL HAS ITS FLAWS BUT PEOPLE WHO CRITIQUE IT HAVE YET TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WORKS BETTER"

I do not think this is a real argument. First of all, works better at doing what (speaking truth to power? giving 'muscle' to unions and ngo's? getting anarchists on television? exposing a bunch of people to police violence? breaking some windows?)? Second of all, the lack of an alternative does not change the validity of a criticism. If the summit model works so well, why must a new crowd be recruited every time? Why aren't tens of thousands of people joining in?

When I argue against summit protests, I'm arguing for a completely different orientation and approach to the world, not a different variant or model of activism.
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Authored by: femin(A)zi on Tuesday, June 30 2009 @ 11:09 PM UTC
what do we know?

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2 recent experiments

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results: blah blah blah

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Authored by: alta fuoco on Wednesday, July 01 2009 @ 01:24 AM UTC
I'm not sure if you're right, Fem. I mean, certainly we've reached a higher level of organization--at least more intimacy and more shared knowledge about what we want. However, I don't know if the "read between the lines" call to action [1] has totally passed its best-before date. Certainly the after-the-fact communique retains a seductive quality...It would be nice though, if there were calls for particular things. But then again, maybe its cool to read this and, with those we feel closest to, then talk to others in person and make plans.

Perhaps the public call for a particular action has become obsolete, but the blabbering we've heard so many times before, gets mashed up and reused and redefined, as a fun little signifier.

Eitherway, I do agree with you that all these insurrectuals need to learn how to fucking use copy edit

[1] I hate this term. Like being a fucking movie director, or something
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Authored by: lettersjournal on Wednesday, July 01 2009 @ 11:52 AM UTC
On the subject of editing... the final sentence of your first paragraph should use "it's". Actually, the whole sentence should probably be rewritten: "Then again, maybe it is cool to read this, then talk and make plans with those we feel closest to."

The Leninism of the communique form repulses me. I don't understand the seduction or appeal of any of this.
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Authored by: no majesty on Tuesday, June 30 2009 @ 11:17 PM UTC
My question is: why does this expression need to be so dense? What does it accomplish to obfuscate good strategic points with needlessly theoretical language? I am worried that the author is more concerned with producing "high-theory" for the sake of their own ego (dubious and unclear as that high-theory may be) than proposing clearer guidelines that can actually shape the direction of insurrectional practice. In other words: words for word's sake.

At the very least, many of the American insurrectional-intellectual productions that I have read are simply rhetorically lax--too many dangling references ("Seattle Myth": What do you mean? Which seattle myth?), contradictory statements ("Nonviolence begets nonviolence", when just before, you point out the ubiquity of police beatdowns of meek protesters.) Essentially, the only way one can read many of these texts and understand them is to already know that one will agree with them--which is the way people read the Bible. Let's not be so self-satisfied that we accept our own intellectual posturing as an end in itself. However, I must note that this piece does put forward better points towards its conclusion.

I love to write as well, but I try to make it comprehensible (though hopefully still articulate and aesthetically pleasing) to those who may not know all the references or may not have university educations. And when we are in deep metaphorical territory, which is exactly where this piece finds itself (after all, Capitalism is an idea as well as a practice!), it is important to be precise in our navigations.
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Authored by: basil on Wednesday, July 01 2009 @ 12:57 AM UTC
Without weighing in on the article itself, this is a collective response the above comment:

Of the five of us reading right now (only one of whom has a college degree) none of us ignorant-ass, regular-ass kids had any problem understanding this shit.

A common sentiment: "the language needs to be clearer", "more accessible", "non-exclusive".

But what exactly is our responsibility when we author pieces on sites like infoshop, anarchist news, etc? Already we know the audience is limited, "subcultural". It does not speak to everyone, nor is it FOR everyone. We would be gravely mistaken and under delusion of grandeur to think that audiences (nationwide?, worldwide?, who?, where?) were hanging on every word that we wrote, or even felt "offended" as a result of not understanding what we're saying.

The five of us do not presume that "regular folks" are incapable, if they were so inclined, of making sense of these types of discussions. They can "get their read on", ask questions, have discussions amongst themselves or with any given author. In fact, all of us were able to entertain the implications of this piece precisely because it matters to us, it speaks to us, it may very well affect our lives and choices.

From the perspective of "strategy" or especially "[leftist] movement building" -- both of which want measurable results -- theory will often seem excessive. It should not be treated as an instrument for "adding bodies" to the struggle. Its role(s) should not be reduced to another form of "consciousness raising", which is atrocious and condescending. We are not politicians, and we don't mean to speak in sound bytes or corral anyone in particular. This is not outreach and we are not missionaries. While there is place for introductory discussions, every piece needn't fit that bill. Those who feel such voids should fill them. Please, relate with whomever matters to you in whatever ways feel appropriate.

To us, the "debate" here boils down to a matter of aesthetics, writing style. Putting it differently, would we have the same conversation about whose shoes are more "inviting", "appealing", "accessible" to others?

On that note, it's late, and some of us are probably going to cuddle with our copies of some complex-ass book or the other. And maybe we'll masturbate. Or whatevs.
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Authored by: no majesty on Wednesday, July 01 2009 @ 10:37 AM UTC
I think you focused in on one part of my point at the expense of the larger picture--I did say that the language needs to be comprehensible, but the more important point (and perhaps I should have emphasized this more) was that if we're going to keep writing in this vein, we should make sure we know what we want to say, and say it as precisely as possible. This piece is not the worst example, but in places it is still putting forward some very loosely-defined ideas. To clarify: I have no problem with theoretical discussions that are geared toward people already immersed in a certain subject. I also of course do not think every production needs to be aimed at "recruiting" or "consciousness raising". The point I was making has a lot more to do with fostering intellectual rigor than a condescending plea for the sake of the ignorant masses.

My major concern is that a bunch of people read "The Coming Insurrection" and "Call" (or any other number of contemporary insurrectional texts) and now think they are entitled to spew any kind of loose insurrectional-sounding metaphor they can think of, while surrounding it with paraphrases from the aforementioned documents so it sounds legit.

I don't find this piece to be egregiously objectionable in that respect--which I why I noted that it gets better towards the end--but to an extent it still does reflect the larger pattern of lax theory and "words for word's sake". So to put it differently, we absolutely would be having the same discussion about a line of shoes that were weak at the seams.
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Authored by: laozi on Wednesday, July 01 2009 @ 12:16 PM UTC
the coming insurrection and the call are french communist pieces.

there is really nothing insurrectionist about them other than a lot of north american insurrectionists have started reading them as well as a lot of our comrades seemingly doing so in greece.
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Authored by: MD on Friday, July 03 2009 @ 01:31 PM UTC
So communists cant be insurrectionary? Whats your point?

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Omnia sunt Communia!
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Authored by: laozi on Friday, July 03 2009 @ 06:15 PM UTC
no of course they can. but the above poster from my first comment, was obviously referring to the insurrectionary anarchist milieu who are inspired by this piece from what one might call i guess now the "insurrectionary communist" scene.
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Authored by: MD on Friday, July 03 2009 @ 06:41 PM UTC
The insurrectionary theories describes a tendency in the class struggle. It can, obviously, inspire both people who label themselves "anarchists", and "communists". So what was your point again?

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Omnia sunt Communia!
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Authored by: laozi on Saturday, July 04 2009 @ 12:01 AM UTC
my point was that the poster previous seemed to be mixing up the facts. TCI and Call are not of the contemporary anarchist insurrectionist tradition, but rather the contemporary insurrectionary communist tradition if you must. yeah i was being picky. and it was sort of pointless. but we trolled about it anyway, didn't we? and i mean me and you, i am not referring to myself in plural. please don't feed the troll further.
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Authored by: engine summer on Friday, July 03 2009 @ 03:46 PM UTC
language = shoes? srsly?

i think this is an important question and i can see both sides of it. on the one hand i see the value of playing with language and pushing its boundaries (upping the ante if you will), challenging an audience to raise the level of discourse. i also think there is value to having these sort of 'internal' bulletins for the 'conscious minority'. (btw who says you cant be an insurrectionary communist? have you actually read any of this invisible shit?)

on the other hand i dont see the point in using big words when simpler expressions would do just as well. it seems like the kind of willed irrelevance and pretentious intellectualism that so many insurrectionaries like to hate on, ironically enough. i dont imagine this is the kind of piece that was meant to be wheatpasted on walls, but i hope there is more propaganda going on and i hope its comprehensible. that doesnt mean "proper", plain english but probably does involve a lot of slang and wordplay. fuck yeah. im bout it bout it. im just sick of having to look up words like "incommensurable".

english has way too many fucking words in it, it is an ungainly monster of a language.
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Authored by: terracide on Wednesday, July 01 2009 @ 01:08 AM UTC
dont assume you need a college education to read this. I haven't even really taken college english classes and i still enjoy reading these high theory pieces.
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Authored by: lettersjournal on Wednesday, July 01 2009 @ 11:43 AM UTC
Does this article really make the cut of "high theory"? What is actually being said here?

If these slogans and phrases - taken from the professor Agamben or the Maoist Foucault, by way of Tiqqun or at least second-hand from those who've read Tiqqun - are repeated enough, will they become true?
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Authored by: terracide on Wednesday, July 01 2009 @ 12:25 PM UTC
I was actually replying to another piece, i dont think it really does, good for them the author didnt want this to be boring to read.

Anarchists shouldn't write boring pieces. Have you ever tried to write a nefac piece? No offense to them but in their attempt to be super accessible to the working class they just water down their pieces to wear there is no playing with language.
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Authored by: elfikes on Wednesday, July 01 2009 @ 02:15 PM UTC



Language, another battlefront. divide divide divide.
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Authored by: basil on Wednesday, July 01 2009 @ 02:16 PM UTC
I definitely want to be able to become a thousand or become hundreds, perhaps in Pittsburgh. Where the problem lies, is in becoming hundreds while still avoiding direct confrontation with police. How do we find so eachother over and over again to become such a thing, in the short time before september, without tipping our hand, so to speak. This might be our challenge.
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Authored by: MagonistaRevolt on Wednesday, July 01 2009 @ 04:33 PM UTC
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Authored by: tehanarchy on Wednesday, July 01 2009 @ 02:56 PM UTC
MOP doesn't get old.
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Authored by: DropScience on Wednesday, July 01 2009 @ 03:44 PM UTC
mop doesnt get old if you you also think dmx doesnt get old
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Authored by: blackhand on Wednesday, July 01 2009 @ 03:51 PM UTC
UP IN HERE
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Authored by: tehanarchy on Wednesday, July 01 2009 @ 04:00 PM UTC
DMX is my dawg, what of it?

I was doing prisoner support for him when he was in an Arizona prison: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHaiog9wnb8


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Authored by: m)A(Kat)A(K on Wednesday, July 01 2009 @ 09:44 PM UTC

apparently an insurWRECKtionary approach to language is not consensible. consensusable? consensus consenting content....... OH wait , let me shoudt on the individua before I go.......WE or whatever (mite I sugjest) sHOULD(in the modern sensef u plz) just talk in scat/code form when developing this nu chat(ter). I saw it in a movie once/seen it in practice, it's either irritating beyond control or hi-LAR-ious. blah blah be do bleep meet u in tha street,

speak for myself? how is that possible!...............really

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Authored by: femin(A)zi on Thursday, July 02 2009 @ 12:24 AM UTC
blah blah blah blah.

blah blah,

B. Lah
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Authored by: Al Ligator on Thursday, July 02 2009 @ 03:17 PM UTC
I must admit I am tired of people thinking that 'insurrectional' ideas or even rhetoric is something new.
The idea of wanting to attack NOW, and not waiting for 'desired circumstances' (which some are here debating if Pittsburgh is a 'desired circumstance' or playfield) is nothing new.
If you open some old history books, you'll see the exploiteds impatience with starving and living a life of banality throught different struggles and different time periods.
You think burning cars is something, they used to shoot priests!
The only thing new about 'insurrection' is the term has been used to lump a bunch of people/actions/ideas into.
It is nothing new people, it is in fact a part of anarchist/radical history.
It's just harder to understand the texts these days, that's all.
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Authored by: draghignazzo on Friday, July 03 2009 @ 11:19 PM UTC
Do you think the emphasis on attack as a form of collective self-organization is old? To me it seems like a kind of new way of getting over the boring dichotomy between "social movements" understood on a militaristic or bureaucratic model, and spontaneous acts of rebellion. Obviously propaganda of the deed is an old idea (and shooting priests is cool I guess), but I think something more specific is being talked about in this call or whatever.

Another new thing in the insurrectionary current (and yeah, it's kind of arbitrary that that's the label) is a different understanding of the terrain of struggle or some such shit. The whole spectacle-hyperreality-biopolitics-globalization-counterinsurgency thing kind of changes what attack means. When infoshop nerds feel proud of themselves for writing about broken windows in clever new ways, it might be because the clever new ways of bragging address conditions of life that the old lessons of radical history did not address.

Maybe think about all of it as a subcultural intervention. In which case, reminiscing about bloodstains on the chapel steps encourages what? Scandinavian black metal. Perhaps electrohipsternihilism has more revolutionary potential.
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Authored by: Al Ligator on Saturday, July 04 2009 @ 01:02 AM UTC
While we do have a more hyper-alienated lifestyle than anyone who has come before us, the struggle will look different, we will string outbursts all over the map, and in this hyper-alienated and isolated terrain it is all the more important to continue connecting the dots of rage and find where we can build cohesiveness and power together.
By the way, I am not bashing the burning of vehicles either (nor the shooting of priests for that matter), I was merely aiming my critique at those who think that insurrection is some new fad.

And I will agree that we have new targets under our scopes these days, such as the whole of civilization and what-not, but the basic attack on misery has been there since the beginning, but with better hindsight now we can see what has kept revolutions from succeeding in the past and hopefully will not make those mistakes again.

I really do not care what the new 'punk' is, I just want to live my life the way I want.
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Authored by: Al Ligator on Saturday, July 04 2009 @ 01:03 AM UTC
In the first sentence I meant to say "we will SEE strings of outbursts all over the map"
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Authored by: veranasi on Saturday, July 04 2009 @ 11:27 AM UTC
Note: this addresses a number of topics in the thread
<P><P>To be fair, anarchism is subcultural. The "who's a hipster game" is an irony in it's own because by simply being something outside of the mainstream you are a hipster. Nearly every critique of hipsters revolves around being different from we the rest of the crowd. The word is useless.
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I say that having suggested the beating up of any anarchists with banjos in 2007. The use of the word hipster comes from a position of class condescension. I was angry at the faux rural styles of 2007; it was definitely because there were hints of appropriation with strain of ignorance on what rural struggle looks like. Truth be told there very few "white trash rednecks" in the anarchist milieu and they certainly aren't Old Crow Medicine Show fans. Rebel Son has a better chance of playing the state fairgrounds than a neo-old tymey band. No one cares.
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I've been called a hipster by activists and insurrectionists alike, mostly because I enjoy word style. I guess I'm culturally appropriating academia. I'm certainly not going to speak in redneck slang: my influences are fiction writers.
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When it comes to the structure debate, I'm afraid that, often, peoples eyes are clouded on notions of power. The NGO friends desperately want see thing through a biopolitical lens, this is one reason they want to work with non-profits. The non-profits are the one who work with the Othered in the soup kitchen. And yet, terms like Othered/oppressed/affected are offensive. Also, non-profits are notoriously out of touch and frequently single issued. Using people for a political purpose creates it's own form of hipster-like condescension and subcultural complications.
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Terminology is an interesting topic. I spent much time during the end of 2008 arguing with academics over the use of various terminology. Terms are great because it allows us to say things in shorter sentences. When everyone was started talking about biopolitics I immediately wanted to know what the medical community had to do with anything and if there was a symbolism game being played. Or if they meant the Foucaultian or Agamben take on biopolitics.
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The end of the argument resulted in two options: 1. define terms at the beginning of your argument or in footnotes. 2. the terms might not be for everyone and thus those who don't take the time to learn them haven't invited themselves to the discussion. Certain uses of a word offer aesthetic pomp qualities and little in the realm of good writing. While the word "commonalities" offers a demeanor of mental strength, the phrase "shared traits" uses less syllables and offers a better picture. It also can't be confused with "commonalty's".
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Whatever the outcome of the G20 a number of questions are going to be asked. Those questions are the most important part of the scheme. The structure debate has more to do with relevance than which clique is the coolest. Most of the current Insurrectionist spectacle is based on myth. So, is it's counter-proposal. We play with myths as images when we invoke the killing of clergy or the magic of window smashing/automobile arson or a workers co-op diner. The most prominent myth is that there is a difference. While the "activists" want to relate to the commonalty (muhaha!) through NGO's or really free-markets or whatever, the "insurrectionists" want to relate through interpersonal practice. There's no reason why they can't mesh outside of the fight against "ideology."
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Small collectives isn't a new idea. Most of the time when I critique the Insurrectionist tendency I am stealing from Bonnano. Sometimes, polly's dick (as opposed to politics) is not a Bonnano. B steals from history, and his influences are thieves, too.

blah blah blah, blah blah, blah blah!
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Authored by: Al Ligator on Saturday, July 04 2009 @ 02:07 PM UTC
Where I come from hipster is used as a derrogatory term, it refers to those who may consume whatever identity is hip right now, whatever clothes are hip, read whoever is hip at the time( or at least claim to read them), yet they have no substance to them whatsoever, no ideas of their own, they just go with whatever is the new thing.
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Authored by: veranasi on Saturday, July 04 2009 @ 03:25 PM UTC
Which we can see in the larger milieu?

The secrets that exist about the flash and sparkle of various moments (the SDS surge, the return of the Black Bloc, Reporting You for the Very First Time, Doing Being) all have little ironies and myth-making on their own. Substance...

Hipsters: it's what's for dinner.

The term drives me crazy.

And it's related to the Jazz era and the Diggers. The contemporary use is odd.

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Tell me that the hipsters in those clips don't remind you of the anarchist milieu at large?

You have kids? Ew.

You like Nickelback? Ew.

I am so anti-corporate and against capitalism.

I like people of color. I'm a good ally. That person over there is a bad ally. Did you hear what they said to so-and-so?

I'm vegan. I like animals.

I'm queer now. I'm gender neutral. That person is too assimilated to be sexy. Ew.

People hiding the fact that they went to prestigious colleges, talking about how against me! sold out, and politics suck, dude. BTW have read the coming insurrection/whatever thing by Cindy Milstein? Those other people are such posers.

They are still my friends.

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Authored by: veranasi on Saturday, July 04 2009 @ 03:29 PM UTC
oh and my favorite new one:

<I>Tiqqun is sooooo passe, I like read that in middle school. Must be some like New Schooler. Ew. </i>

And it's vice versa.

Ew.
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Authored by: JBizzle on Sunday, July 05 2009 @ 12:33 AM UTC
I love you