New G20 Poster

Authored by: Antibankorgs on Monday, June 01 2009 @ 08:33 PM UTC

Now is a very good time to organize and prepare our selves for what is to come this G20 meeting. That means save up now and put our money together to fly out, bus out, drive out or get there by train if you don't live too far away from where it's taking place. Form an affinity group now to discuss a range of tactics. PREPARE NOW! Don't let them save this economic disaster called capitalism. Business and Government as Usual is the Disease and we are the only cure.

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Authored by: JBizzle on Monday, June 01 2009 @ 08:46 PM UTC

neat-o

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Authored by: RanDomino on Monday, June 01 2009 @ 10:58 PM UTC

Wow- gorgeous! But should it have the date?

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Authored by: terracide on Monday, June 01 2009 @ 11:07 PM UTC

the poster looks awesome.

But perhaps it should have been put on hold for like two weeks for Pittsburgh Anarchists to officially put a call to action out and a website together. Also the G20 is happening September 24th-26th

It is obvious that they are going to do something, judging by the update they put up on infoshop earlier.

Just my thoughts!

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Authored by: hbgaac on Monday, June 01 2009 @ 11:21 PM UTC

a statement from pitts is on its way out. its good to get the ball rolling now and even better that lots of people are excited.

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Authored by: Killer Bunny on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 09:07 AM UTC

Yeah, folks here in the 412 are getting things together... but we want to do it right and that means taking a little bit of time to get everybody together and be as inclusive and thoughtful as possible. In the mean time, I personally think it's awesome that folks in other places are stepping up and building hype.

Go get 'em team (A)...

Also, it might not be a bad time to start discussions amongst your organizations, networks, collectives, and affinity groups about what you want to accomplish in Pittsburgh and how you're going to get it done.

kb

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Authored by: CaseyFord on Monday, June 01 2009 @ 11:51 PM UTC

What is the blue and black star? I tried to look it up and found a bunch of different meanings.

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Authored by: collective(a) on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 12:08 AM UTC

There is no blue and black star on the poster. Time to check for color blindness? ( http://www.toledo-bend.com/colorblind/Ishihara.asp )

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Authored by: CaseyFord on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 01:05 AM UTC

Between the green and pink douchebag.

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Authored by: JBizzle on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 01:36 AM UTC

i'm pretty sure that's purple.

lavender?

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Authored by: CaseyFord on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 01:48 AM UTC

Hmm. I can see that from certain angles.

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Authored by: terracide on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 11:44 AM UTC

no its definitely purple. It's not a bad thing to be color blind, it just kinda heppens to some population, but it being on a lighter shade of purple might hurt the visibility of it a bit.

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Authored by: Brennus on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 03:20 PM UTC

So if you're looking at this on a laptop screen from the wrong angle, it can look blue.

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Authored by: griffjam on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 04:22 PM UTC

purple is anarcha-feminism, the pink next to it can be both anarcha-feminism or queer anarchism

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Authored by: DropScience on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 01:16 AM UTC

it would be much more advantageous to use this as an experiment for a new strategy. maybe instead of showing up during the meet of the summit, attempting to shut it down, people should show up the week before, or maybe wait til the days after. We all know how much money the local police will get for this summit, and we can extend their length of operation ,assuming liberals and what not will be there during the summit and will need policing, we can drive a huge fiscal impact to the police. it may also be the time when other counties won't be in the area because they can only give the time of their police for a limited time.

stopping this meeting wont be important, what will be important is bolstering a new strategy in the face of empire. fighting on their terms and on their time is the biggest mistake we can make.

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Authored by: JBizzle on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 01:39 AM UTC

police don't have to worry about fiscal impact. you know, that whole tax thing

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Authored by: DropScience on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 01:42 AM UTC

but cities do, and so do corporate entities. right now tons of police departments are underfunded, this can be a chance to create a situation of social war, rather than the same old attempt to shutdown a summit that gets abandoned last minute.

we can use this to occupy space and create front lines on our own terms.

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Authored by: Pathology on Wednesday, June 03 2009 @ 07:17 AM UTC

are you kidding???? Underfunded !?!?!

Most starting pigs earn $15,000 more a year than life long social workers


"I'm a put it simple an' plain: Cops is Evil" -JMT

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Authored by: Dead End on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 11:16 AM UTC

Lemme guess, 600 arrests, a broken window and the meetings still happen

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Authored by: CaseyFord on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 11:29 AM UTC

Wow. Pittsburgh hasn't even gotten together to talk about it yet and someone is already runnin their mouth (fingers?) with cynicism and shit-talkin.

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Authored by: Dead End on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 12:36 PM UTC

I was more commenting on the mass mobilization model more than any specific city or group of anarchists.

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Authored by: Dead End on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 12:39 PM UTC

Which, I should specify, is fun as hell, it's just not necessarily ever going to be successful in its mission of shutting things down anymore

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Authored by: CaseyFord on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 12:49 PM UTC

But you're making assumptions about the framework and goals that Pittsburgh comes up with. At least wait for us to come up with an idea before trashing it.

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Authored by: terracide on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 12:49 PM UTC

yeah but its okay to steal headlines, even if it's for a short while, being in the head lines is a posi thing. The G20 protest i hope created a spike in interest in anarchist politics.

I have no clue how to actually make this happen but there is dissent against obama, how can you make the anarchist movement hold the mantle of dissent, and get people who are angry at bailouts, debt, eco-destruction, foreclosures or what ever that issue might be? There are loads of people who are angry about issues how do you make them go its not the issues its so whole god damn fucking system.

I think pittsburgh gives us a huge chance of success
-800 cops city wide
-two rivers surrounding the city
-two high ways
-unique roads

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Authored by: CaseyFord on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 05:41 PM UTC

Hahaha.

Unique roads = it's hard to drive around here (especially if you aren't from around here)

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Authored by: butternut on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 01:33 PM UTC

looks fucking awesome, but lots of male bodies... let's check the manarchism and remember that womyn and transfolk can run wild in the streets too!

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Authored by: Dead End on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 01:37 PM UTC

how can you tell the gender/sex of shadowy black figures with masks and hoodies on?

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Authored by: Brennus on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 03:27 PM UTC

Really? <i>Really?</i>

1) The use of the word anarchism makes it impossible to take anyone using it seriously.

2) It's a picture of a black bloc. That's all. Get over it. Yo pick your battles when they're real. I'll be with you then.

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Authored by: Admin on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 05:05 PM UTC

Really? A quota of people depicted in some black bloc photo? You are kidding us right? Do you know how hard it is to find good photos of protests, let alone ones that meet your factors? And how can you tell anything about the identity of the people in this photo? They are masked up to be anonymous!

Chuck

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Authored by: generaluser on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 05:14 PM UTC

Manarchism is the dumbest term in the world, dumber in fact than "wardrobe malfunction" or even "bushwacked." Also, using it is a way of sending up a red flag to show how dumb you are.

Furthermore, check your transphobia, because I know a lot of the people in this flyer that don't identify as male, asshole!

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Authored by: JackR on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 07:05 PM UTC

"womyn"?

Oh you're so ultra-revolutionary-feminist! Does it really matter, is it so "feminist" to fuck with the English language?

Maybe if you could find someone who's "transgender" and in this bloc, they would be on there. But you wouldn't notice because you don't wear a dress to a bloc, obviously.

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Authored by: CaseyFord on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 10:29 PM UTC

Jesus. Yinz need to chill the fuck out. The first couple comments were enough to, I think show butternut's post to be off the mark. I know it's the internet, but a bunch of people ridiculing (as opposed to disproving or disagreeing with) someone for a concern that is no doubt based in reality is just god damn uncalled for.

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Authored by: JackR on Wednesday, June 03 2009 @ 02:40 PM UTC

Sorry I can't tolerate fucking idiots?

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Authored by: laozi on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 08:16 PM UTC

you can totally tell what the biological sex of what a bunch of these folks are too sorry. and i don't mean to be stepping into any lame-o territory here, it is not my place to really be determining what their biological sex is but if you have seen any more of the photos of that protest you'd know that a bunch of folk were womyn and it is pretty obvious.

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Authored by: terracide on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 10:21 PM UTC

http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh...ily19.html

totally getting ready for us and pittsburgh folks havent even put a formal call to action out.

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Authored by: CaseyFord on Tuesday, June 02 2009 @ 10:31 PM UTC

No need for impatience. We're workin on it. We wanna get this right.

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Authored by: terracide on Wednesday, June 03 2009 @ 12:26 AM UTC

oh im not getting impatient, i just was telling people about the cops getting ready. Believe me i trust y'all to get stuff together.

I personally am super excited how it looks right now and i think the cops might be very ill prepared.

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Authored by: no majesty on Wednesday, June 03 2009 @ 02:40 PM UTC

if ya'll are serious you should have people at this meeting:
http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh...ily19.html

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Authored by: ansel on Wednesday, June 03 2009 @ 11:11 AM UTC

butternut, you are totally right. I know it's difficult to find good-size/impressive images for flyers, but you're right. To the rest of you, get a clue. You may not be trying to drive women and trans folks out of our movement, but that's exactly what you're doing with this kind of hyperbole.

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Authored by: lopez on Wednesday, June 03 2009 @ 06:57 PM UTC

oh mah gawd, all you anarchists obsessing over and saying shit like "womyn" and "manarchism" drove me out of the "movement" probably over eight years ago and have continued to repel me further and further away with every new year.

see you in pittsburgh, freaks!

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Authored by: Marja on Wednesday, June 03 2009 @ 08:01 PM UTC

I am a womon. I am a butch. I am trans.

An accident of birth doesn't make me less a womon. Not all folks are men or womyn, but most trans folks are one or the other.

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Authored by: JackR on Wednesday, June 03 2009 @ 09:41 PM UTC

Well you weren't born that way, can I be a sheep because I feel like a sheep?

No, I can't, and men can't be women and vice/versa. I don't care if you call it "transphobia" to not care about someone wanting their dick chopped off, there are more pressing issues at hand than someone wanting to put on a dress to obnubliate the fact that they're by birth a man. People are starving, the class struggle continues whether or not you go under some unnatural surgery to change what gender you look like; you can never truly be the other gender because you weren't born that way, it's not like you can't be jocund with the body you naturally have, you just choose to be melancholy.

Ban me or whatever you feel like, Chuck, but it had to be said. I'm not going to remain otiose while anarchism becomes a label for all sorts of oddballs to attatch to themselves, with no sense of the class struggle and only caring about selfish pursuits.

In conclusion, fuck "post lefties", primmies, and even trannies. The whole "bash back" sect too, I used to like them until they did that whole "gay is revolutionary" bullshit and started desecrating the grave of Emma Goldman.

So, if you're going to ban me for not supporting wierdo's wanting to get their penises chopped off, or oddball women with an epiphallic fixation, go ahead. I'm done with this shit, and moving to Libcom.

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Authored by: veranasi on Thursday, June 04 2009 @ 06:05 AM UTC

It is class struggle. It's just not the class struggle you wish for. If the movement supported solely "class" struggle it would end up supporting sexist racist homophobes from a variety of backgrounds.

Certainly, there are concerns about body modification to become more comfortable with oneself, but gender is a social construct. People should identify as they feel, even it's sheep.

As far as "Gay is Revolutionary." I don't really think this is true. I don't think most in the anarchist milieu would say this. Certainly not about HRC.

Bash Back is 50% straight kids who use plural pronouns instead of he, she or an appropriate singular genderless pronoun. Bash Back is a queer group.It's different. It's purpose is too be obnoxious and subversive, even to the radical community. There a zillion problems with the group, just like any other group.

As for butchering the English language, I guess it depends on who you want to attract. There are all sorts of cants and argot that are used with any given subculture.

Lighten up.

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Authored by: Marja on Thursday, June 04 2009 @ 06:34 PM UTC

By what special insight can you lecture me about my life and deny my experiences?

Maybe you might have some insight if you had walked a mile in my hiking boots. Until then, ni waihts.

I spent all my life trying to be a man. I guess that makes me a failure, because I could not. I am now living [as a butch and a womon]. While trying to live as a man, I became an anarchist. This was years before recognizing myself [as a womon]. So does being a womon, being trans, or transitioning, make me less of an anarchist?

I have had this mismatch - this ever-present discomfort and intermittent pain in my body - since childhood and *only* transition has done *anything* to relieve the discomfort and pain. The neurological evidence shows that trans womyn have similar hypothalamus structure, particularly in the BSTc to cis womyn, and distinctly different from cis men. Similar hormone treatments [for prostate cancer and other conditions] do not affect the BSTc, so hormone treatments cannot explain the differences. Interestingly, these tissues are involved in body maps and endocrine regulation. Not involved in culturally-specific gender roles.

Here is one of the classic papers on the subject:

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/cont.../85/5/2034

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Authored by: CaseyFord on Thursday, June 04 2009 @ 10:41 PM UTC

JackR just got owned by Marja's science. Love it.

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Authored by: JackR on Friday, June 05 2009 @ 06:23 AM UTC

I read it, and it smells like bullshit.

My question still hasn't been answered, if I feel like a sheep does that mean I am a sheep "on the inside"?

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Authored by: veranasi on Friday, June 05 2009 @ 07:17 AM UTC

he you feel like an anarchist, does that mean you are an anarchsu on the inside? anything is possible esp when it comes to internal feelings.

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Authored by: veranasi on Friday, June 05 2009 @ 08:32 AM UTC

i hate cell phones

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Authored by: CaseyFord on Friday, June 05 2009 @ 10:02 AM UTC

I thought you were goin to LibCom?

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Authored by: Marja on Friday, June 05 2009 @ 06:25 PM UTC

Do you have any specific criticisms of the study? As opposed to insinuations.

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Authored by: Marja on Thursday, June 04 2009 @ 06:46 PM UTC

And if you "don't care" why are you lecturing me about this? Why are you smearing me and denying my identity?

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Authored by: corporatecrimina on Friday, June 05 2009 @ 12:43 PM UTC

And people get murdered because they don't fit into socially-constructed gender roles. Is that not a "pressing issue"? How about the fact that often the people bashing, sexually assaulting and even killing gender-variant folks are police? Does that make it a valid enough "anarchist" cause for you? You seem to be primarily concerned with "class struggle." Does the fact that trans folk are often denied employment, harassed by their employers and even fired because of their gender identity help you recognize how class struggle isn't separated from these issues?

When looking at transphobia (like nearly all forms of oppression in society) you don't have to scratch too far below the surface to find how Capitalism and The State play roles in perpetuating the injustice.

Good luck over on libcom, though I've never seen anything there that sounds quite as reactionary as what you're saying. Maybe Focus on the Family would be a better fit for you: http://www.citizenlink.org/FOSI/homos...007267.cfm

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Authored by: Aster on Saturday, June 06 2009 @ 10:55 AM UTC

"Can I be a sheep because I feel like a sheep?"

I would encourage everyone to realise their innermost nature.

"Oh wondrous and unsurpassable felicity of man, to whom it is granted to have what he chooses, to be what he wills to be! The brutes, from the moment of their birth, bring with them, as Lucilius says, 'from their mother's womb' all that they will ever possess. The highest spiritual beings were, from the very moment of creation, or soon thereafter, fixed in the mode of being which would be theirs through measureless eternities. But upon man, at the moment of his creation, God bestowed seeds pregnant with all possibilities, the germs of every form of life. Whichever of these a man shall cultivate, the same will mature and bear fruit in him. If vegetative, he will become a plant; if sensual, he will become brutish; if rational, he will reveal himself a heavenly being; if intellectual, he will be an angel and the son of God. And if, dissatisfied with the lot of all creatures, he should recollect himself into the center of his own unity, he will there become one spirit with God, in the solitary darkness of the Father, Who is set above all things, himself transcend all creatures."

(Pico della Mirandola)

Baaaaaaaa.....

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Authored by: laozi on Sunday, June 07 2009 @ 09:52 AM UTC

you do know right that most of us are not tested for our gender at birth other than a look at our genitals? i mean like our actual genetics, because seriously there are a lot of folks that are born with extra chromosomes like xxy, and xyy so seriously shut up about this "yer born that way" bull shit. people are born many ways.

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Authored by: Antibankorgs on Wednesday, June 03 2009 @ 03:23 AM UTC

Gezzz, I hear a lot of people commenting about things that are not relevant to this coming up action. We need to be a little more proactive, productive and unified and stop letting little things like race color and gender divide us all which will conquer us all in the end if we don't cut it out.

I think the G20 is more fascist than a supposed all male looking black bloc poster. Even if it is all male theres probably a few women out side of the screen anyway but who cares we need to focus on G20. Let's be more unified like the anarchists in Greece. Let's try to learn a few lessons from the last meeting in London. Police effectively boxed people in not allowing them to leave the downtown financial district even though people pushed back. They didn't push back hard enough and didn't have the means to scare them off obviously. Instead of letting people leave all at once they let em go one by one with an escort so each person could be identified. The ones identified as trouble makers were arrested and other had no choice and didn't want to resist as the numbers went down and so gave up and got arrested for what ever illegal action they did. We need to start developing some strategy here among our friends in groups and when getting together down town share with the bloc what to do in the situation. I hate police tactics. They can be really demoralizing to others who want to join the fight but are too afraid of getting caught up. Nobody wants to get arrested and I don't want to see us being taken off one by one just like they did to people in London. Please don't say I'm jumping the gun because how are we supposed to do counter tactics with out jumping to conclusions. Maybe the only reason why boxing everyone in at the g20 London was so successful is because people in London didn't plan and so the didn't really know what to do. It's supposed to be "Smash the State" not get owned by the state, you know? Good we are discussing this so early by the way! This just means we're ten steps ahead of the game so pat your selves on the back and get to work. We've got lot's to do in the months leading up. I'm sure there will be thousands in the streets. Stay tight and link arms when needed. We can do other actions around the G20 meeting if people are up to it. Shit we can do all kinds of actions in downtown. The possibilities are limitless.

Just form an affinity group now and try not to let the hardtimes discourage you from trying to make it to the demonstration. We need a lot of people and every single one of us counts!



-A-

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Authored by: laozi on Wednesday, June 03 2009 @ 10:01 AM UTC

one thing about g20 london (i was following all day, but these are just observations through live media footage/live twitter) it was split between the general coalition g20meltdown which was definitely anti-capitalist flavored (commies, anarcho-syndicalists, socialists, etc) but was not explicitly anarchist affinity groups, it mostly seemed to be a coalition of different aboveground activist groups and lone individuals who wanted to join in on the spectacle of it all. the affinity groups were there but their tactics was swarming in small bunches of individual affinity groups and they were not working as a bloc. so they seemed fairly divided. so there was no real setup to resist / confront the police as a unified body of people once they started cordoning people in. also the bank of england smashy smashy was totally assisted by provocateurs and setup on purpose as a media spectacle. the hsbc bank in the other area of the financial district that got smashed got absolutely no coverage. but there were tons of cameras already set up and cops inside the bank of england.

also then there was the climate camp and they were mostly green/progressives/eco-liberal consumer types with a good direct action strategy of occupying space. they were not fucked with until the late evening because they had gotten permission. it seemed a lot more of the normal folks were at that through out today.

in general the g20 protests were just normal reclaim the streets-ish/reformy hold a sign picketing though there was the intent with the g20meltdown group to storm the banks. but that didn't really work as planned and there was no back up plan.

i don't know how much we can plan for the antiwar/liberal/left groups to show up in pittsburgh either. it is not on the coasts and might be a bit of a pain for them, plus they are all pretty pleased with obama now in office. i am sure some commies and ngo stuff might show up but it probably wont be a coalition like in london. but who knows?

i just expect it will mostly be anti-authoritarians/anarchists out there. it'll probably mostly be us. that is possibly frightening but also could be an effective way to campaign and plan around the situation. we should plan for that. and we can probably expect raids like at the rnc. so maybe there might be some good planning on how to avoid raids as much as possible.

just some thoughts.

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Authored by: Antibankorgs on Wednesday, June 03 2009 @ 07:24 PM UTC

No More Permits
No More Games

If the only ones who come out are mainly anti-capitalists and anarchists, it will make us look like we're the only ones left to fight the system and who really give a shit and that will be the birth of the new direct action movement in the United States as opposed to the same old permit action that did absolutely nothing to interfere with the waging of war and capitalism over the world. With so many people taking so much interest so early before the G20 has even met it is for certain that there will be thousands in the streets. Anarchists seem to be the only ones so far who really understand that permits are just one of the systems many buffers to prevent people from winning a fight against the system to gain control over their lives. Other people are catching on but are too slow to find out and somewhat are still stubbornly holding on to that last glimmer of hope that one day they are going to bow down and let us be free. YOU ARE MISTAKEN. Not even in a hundred years will it happen. You've got to fight for your rights. Rights are never given they are fought for. Only privileges can be given. They’ll fight hard to stop us but we've got to fight back. When the law is being used in such a way to protect and support fascism and you support the law you in turn support fascism and are protecting fascism. Don't let the police form a line between us. Don't let the police bloc us or box us in. Hold the line. Bring helmets, shields, gas masks, flag poles, be anonymous. Dress in all black. Stick together tight. Link up when needed. Don’t snake off into groups unless needed and come together when being approached and stand up to the police. And last but not least keep your bandanna over your face at all times. Exploit week spots. Be quick but be smart. Come to your brother and or sisters aid when being arrested. This is what affinity groups is for. Affinity groups are meant to support other affinity groups when in trouble. Aid your brother and sister. Fight till the end so the world will see that we do not agree with the government of the United States and their financial backers.
And if you can't get any farther to prevent delegates from arriving to their destination and a volley of tear gas- concussion grenades come falling upon your heads throw them back. Bring thick gloves to protect your hands. And if you get stormed out and the group has to run for it you better smash every target that be on list on the way out.

-A-

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Authored by: veranasi on Wednesday, June 03 2009 @ 10:13 PM UTC

on expecting raids: there is a reason it was moved to pgh.

despite the small number of folks at world bank and the footage of street fighting so many found embarrassing, MPD had their asses handed to them.

don't be surprised if this was specifically chosen for law enforcement to try out new tactics.

someone from the world bank actions should do a reportback. crazy things happened like: the bank was shut down on day one, the government used crazy sonic weapons via helicopter, FBI bomb squads, homeland security, ICE and foreign agents were deployed. National Guard showed up. and on and on and on....

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