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Wrecking You Again for the Very First Time

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A haze still hangs over the events surrounding the first day of the RNC. What is certain: broken windows, smashed cop cars, blockades, and cops and right-wing vigilantes beaten to the ground by black-clad thugs. We took part in these events on September 1st, when at least two black blocs flooded into the streets, shutting down roadways and wrecking parts of downtown St. Paul. Such intense conflict hasn’t been observed at demonstrations in the US since at least the start of the anti-war mobilizations or possibly since the mythologized Seattle black bloc. We refuse to let the actions that defined that day be erased or mystified by the media.

Wrecking You Again for the Very First Time

A haze still hangs over the events surrounding the first day of the RNC. What is certain: broken windows, smashed cop cars, blockades, and cops and right-wing vigilantes beaten to the ground by black-clad thugs. We took part in these events on September 1st, when at least two black blocs flooded into the streets, shutting down roadways and wrecking parts of downtown St. Paul. Such intense conflict hasn’t been observed at demonstrations in the US since at least the start of the anti-war mobilizations or possibly since the mythologized Seattle black bloc. We refuse to let the actions that defined that day be erased or mystified by the media.

A large group leaves the state capitol equipped with PA systems and led by the colorful coeds of “Funk the War.” The crowd walks straight into a line of bike cops; it is still weak. They are hosed in pepper spray and stripped of their dignity. We are separated from our comrades and left to wander the surreal territories of a city where the state has materialized. Every block a squad of riot cops —some tense and shaking, others confused and afraid. We find our friends; we are powerful again. Soon after, a black bloc emerges from the crowd, ready to unleash its hate. With physical barriers present we continue to move –within the confines we find mobility.

It’s been far too long since the black mask has corresponded to rioting in this country. Our tried and true tactic, our insidious uniform, has been co-opted by capital, regurgitated as a mere fashion symbol. Something for today's disempowered youth to splay across the internet in their false communities as a false declaration of rage. That day when our festive button down shirts disappeared to reveal the classic team color of the anti-everything squad, the kid's eyes blinked in confusion. The black mask is not something to play dress up in. To take back the mask means to actualize our desires, blood and glass and a street filled with us.

A hammer cracks two windows, and a good citizen dashes from the sidewalk in pursuit. He grabs the young man with his right hand, a "Let Our Soldiers Win!" sign in the other. He wants to be a cop, a hero, but he's made a mistake. This isn't a peace march; this is the thrashing body of a wrecking machine. The man is rushed from behind, knocking him off balance just long enough for someone to slide their arms around him. He receives a swift kick to the side, and his do-gooder momentum is redirected into the pavement, dropping him like a dead weight.

There are those who speak of property damage as a tactic, as an implement in the activist’s toolbox. We are not among them. They’d like to coerce us into this utilitarian relationship through the edifice of politics; we'd prefer not to. The rioting on Monday, despite its limitations, materialized our inclinations as exploited and alienated individuals to gouge at the eyes of both capital and politics. We make these attacks because we wish to improve our conditions immediately and to do so in way that violates the peace treaty signed by the managers of politics.

Our joy and malice intertwine as another crowd fuses with us and becomes-rioting. Desire moves our appendages, and objects are released through the imaginary field constructed between law and order. Someone runs on top of a moving police car and exposes that the state too is made of sinew and fiber. In moments a lonely police car is located, and with force a body stomps a perfect “pop” through its windshield. Each of us sheds our polite veneer, and we reveal the social conflict that is the shared experience of our conditions.

We stress that no one has felt a comparable pleasure in America in the last five years. No amount of bodily fluid, mixed with syzurp, swirled together to the sound of Lil’ Wayne's “A Milli” could concentrate the joy felt when stones collapsed bank windows. Ecstasy was the vandalized cop car. Music was the hissing tire punctures. Glee was the foot inserted into the gendarme's paunch. Like we freed our companions from the police's grip, our collective force will rip words from restrictive reference. From here on, beauty, decadence, and orgy can only connote immediate destruction.

The management of Funk the War begins to recognize our intentions of commandeering their decomposing endeavor. Our momentum necessarily severs from any objectives outlined in any spokes council. Aspiring bureaucrats shed tears for their failure to regulate, and the politics of impotency reveals an impotency of politics. With unabashed sincerity and intensity, the dead weight is cast aside, holding only its precarious career and a falsified notion of failure within its palms. The corpse of activism begs for rejuvenation, but to no avail.

The blockades were never enough for us, and judging them solely on their own terms, they were a failure. The delegates weren’t blocked and the convention occurred with little disruption. But to even accept the goal of shutting down the convention requires accepting the discourse of power the RNC itself represents. It is a gathering of figureheads, nothing more. It is not a strike against the heart of the system; at best it is a site where we can manifest social war. The overt objective of the mobilization was always a bit banal, and luckily most saw through this thin veneer and prepared for street conflict instead.

Cameras surround us on all sides, independent, corporate, freelance, whatever. They’re all there, snapping away, reducing beautiful moments to trite representations for use by the police or for sale to newspapers and magazines. The joy of vicarious violence is what they seek, either for their own careers or for the public they sedate. After broken windows, smashed cars, and burning residue, like lapdogs they ask, “But what do you want?” The media finds us interesting, but we find them disgusting.

What those in a protest march want: a clear message, written on signs, to be transmitted to the media, which then represents it to the public vis-à-vis the news. What those in a blockade want: a collective message, performed through an action, captured by the media, which then represents it to the public. In both these cases, whether they are symbolic or concrete actions, whether the medium is the transparent screen or whether it is the message itself, the logic of the media is unquestioned. The media is but one weapon in the democratic arsenal of repression. It promises us the ability to “get the message out,” to communicate. But this is an illusion. Stuck somewhere between clips from Iraq, quirky news anchors, and human interest stories, our “message” lingers momentarily as merely another piece of information to form an opinion about. To act as a social force in the street is not to give the media a clear message, rather it is to purposefully disrupt the chain of messaging that is embodied in the protest-media-audience script. Our message is a code hidden within our form, pressed against the media itself, subverting its smooth capture of our desires. We have neither words nor deeds to be represented, only representations themselves to be corrupted. When the medium destroys the message, our message can only work by destroying its medium.

One lone cop, albeit a large one, has the gall to grab one of us. One of them and fifty of us. After countless experiences of being on the defensive at demonstrations or simply on the streets of our hometowns, we will take advantage of any opening we find. A hooligan sneaks up behind the cop catching him with a well-placed kick between the legs and runs back into the loving arms of the mob. As the cop releases a shower of pepper spray into the crowd, another person surges forth, body checking the cop with a flying leap. The pig hits the ground, and our comrade is freed.

Our milieu has always found ways to provide material and legal support for comrades imprisoned by the state. Support in this manner is always commendable, but by itself fails to capture the true nature of solidarity. This is because solidarity cannot be narrowly defined within the legal sphere. When any comrade in struggle is arrested, their capture must be seen as a strategy of state repression to inhibit the wide scope of social revolution. Thus, the closer we come to complete societal transformation, the more the state will use draconian laws, like anti-terrorism legislation, to imprison us all. The only way to break this violent cycle is to continue our jailed comrade’s struggle to its end. Hence, solidarity means attack, attacking every vestige of the system that collaborated to lock our friends behind bars. These attacks are to continue until everyone is liberated from their cages, whether cubicle or cell. From this perspective, providing the sledgehammers to turn banks into debris is equivalent to filling a commissary with chainsaws for penitentiary revolt. Just like the greatest possible gift to a friend is the destruction of all authority, the best support for a comrade in jail is the destruction of every prison.

On Monday, we catapulted off of expensive cars that propelled us through department store windows. When we finally landed, sneakers-first onto a police officer’s frown, the state’s precautionary plans were overturned like the dumpsters that crowded the streets of St. Paul. We aren’t passive victims, nor are their tactics surprising to us. The forces of order prepared quite well for this engagement, arming themselves with every technique at their disposal. The state of exception came to bear as the National Guard was deployed to work in tandem with the police, guarding the jail and attacking demonstrators. But naked force was also complemented by juridical repression. The “conspiracy to riot in furtherance of terrorism” charges are no haphazard application or abuse of the law; they are its logical extension.

Many would like to use the events of September 1st to gain credibility for or to invigorate their historical reenactivist societies, be it recreating the ‘60s or the anti-globalization protests. It’s time to bury the myths of Chicago and Seattle once and for all. The demonstration form is a suffocating cocoon from which we need to break free. We were not in St. Paul for the illusory goals some had swallowed wholesale. We don’t give a fuck about a summit, but we can use it as a springboard, parasitically sucking life and leaving behind anemic remains. We were there this time because we do not yet have the force to manifest such conflict outside of the context of mass mobilizations. One of our goals is to take all of the force directed against false epicenters of power and redirect it into social conflicts that have the actual potential to disrupt the flows of this system. We are abandoning the vapid discourse of protest towards a concrete offensive in the social war. We refuse to run in circles anymore.

To my left there is a swarm of bodies destroying a police cruiser, and to my right, others completely ruining the exterior of a bank. Magically, bricks are removed from one side of the building and returned through another.

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Authored by: anony mouse on Monday, September 15 2008 @ 08:01 PM UTC
your mouths are stuffed with so many corpses it's impossible to understand a word you say. as though the system were a window you can just smash. fucking idiots. being a jerk is being a jerk no matter how couched in hyperbole. and anybody who disagrees with you is a bureaucrat? give me a fucking break. this kind of nonsensical bullshit gives everyone who faced down republicans and cops, jail and tear gas (and yes, who smashed windows) a bad name.
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Authored by: hbgaac on Monday, September 15 2008 @ 08:48 PM UTC
i agree with alot of this article. it is time for us to attack. it is time for us to really begin to fight. its time to build an insurrectionary movement BUTTTTT attacking fellow activists (and anarchists) is ignorant, irresponsible and is most definitely not going to get us anywhere. Many of the organizers of funk the war are anarchists, in fact alot of them probably have no problem with breaking windows or even punching cops but to insult and condemn them is not going to further our movement at all. If the organizers did have a problem with the funk the war becoming a black bloc it was most likely because many of the youths in the funk the war action were either A) participating in one of there first un-permitted actions B) not ready for or prepared for confrontational situations C) were un-arrestable for one reason or another. By turning the funk the war into a black bloc it puts all of those persons at risk. so i think if the organizers had any problem it was because of that.

It is certainly time for us to fight but we still need to try to build a broad movement where all kinds of people wishing to use all kinds of tactics have a place and are welcome.
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Authored by: MagonistaRevolt on Wednesday, September 17 2008 @ 12:18 PM UTC
I'll repost my reply to a person on the Crimethinc website:

To conventiongoer:
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Authored by: underthepavers on Wednesday, September 17 2008 @ 07:22 PM UTC
I agree with the above post. I'll also say that I was kind of embarrassed by the behavior and lack of tactical planning by the people responsible for most of the actions that this is in response to. I was in the roving "blac bloc" that decided to join the funk the war march. Our decision to join with them was a last minute decision based on the fact that we didn't have the numbers necessary to venture out alone. That was about the only sound decision made by our small group that morning. Luckily for us , funk the war decided to change their whole plan, to help us attain our goals. They only asked that either we try our best to blend in and look festive, so we would all have a better go in the streets, or that we hang in the back and bring heat only on ourselves. If we didn't like that plan, we should have went our separate ways right then. We weren't dealing with some fucking liberal peace police types, we were dealing with other anarchist, and direct action minded folks. So, as things kicked off, all was going well and everyone was getting along, minus maybe one or two youngsters who desperately wanted us not to fuck shit up because thy were scared. But, the mass of the march was still down. After a half hour or so of fucking up funk the wars plans, and making it painfully obvious that we hadn't spent any time planning for fucking anything other than smashing a few things, funk the war organizers wanted to get back to being as effective as they had planned. So, they started suggesting that we head down to a pre-determined spot that they had planned for. "Our" bloc decided that they should change funk the wars plans even further by heading to the front of the march, and "leading" them some where else. Of course who the fuck knows where, because we had no plan. The only positive thing we may have accomplished was possibly being an inspiration to others who don't have the whole story. The people who don't have the whole story would possibly think that there was a large black bloc that roved for hours destroying everything in its wake, and having no fear of the police, thats certainly what the writers of this story would have you believe. But I'll tell you that they're full of shit. Truth be told, numbers of people smashing things were about ten, numbers of storefront and bank windows smashed were around about seven , with about three or four random windows, total cop cars smashed up were three (and one wasn't even from this march), total luxury cars smashed was one that I saw (audi, minimal damage) and it all probably only lasted about an hour (maybe more?) Anyways, I am certainly down with direct action, property destruction, and respecting a diversity of tactics, but the few vanguardist "anarchists" who assembled this affinity group of individuals who had no affinity group , just to build their numbers, were not helping to build a movement. At first, I was disappointed in the lack of tactics, and wrote it off as inexperience. Now to read this bullshit, fuck these self congratulatory egotistical fucks. Hope your having fun patting your own backs. And by the way, the best footage and possibly coolest action that morning, was the unarrest, carried out by a brave newbie saving the ass of someone that I'm going to assume had a hand in writing this crap.
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Authored by: biofilo on Monday, September 15 2008 @ 08:51 PM UTC

Look, you pretentious idiots, "gendarme" is NOT what they're called here in the US. Your ridiculous attempts to come off as educated and clever just foreground how much of a barrier to relevance your reading in obscure French insurrectionist rhetoric is.

Likewise, don't knock the strategy and the tremendous amounts of organizing that took place--those were absolutely necessary to create the preconditions for your action. Without them, it would have been as much of a failure as all prior attempts in the past several years.

Black bloc stuff is fine, and a lot of the stuff that happened September 1 in St. Paul was amazing. But poor social skills--writing everyone else off as "activists" as so on--are not conducive to anarchist revolutionary struggle (or insurrectionism or whatever you self-important egotists are calling it these days to feel like you're better than everyone else). When some of the alleged participants need legal support for serious trials ahead, it's a particularly bad time for a few people to be spouting rhetoric and burning bridges.

Don't get a big head--insurrectionists in the US haven't done anything impressive in years, and adding 40 minutes of rioting to your resume after other people did all the work to set up the situation for you is not enough. Don't worry, though, there's plenty of struggle ahead--but we'll especially need healthy relationships and mutual respect for that.
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Authored by: Kristofer on Monday, September 15 2008 @ 10:09 PM UTC
The Black Bloc was totally and completely premature. All of the overwrought rhetoric above might be warranted if there was actual substantial damage. But all the pictures of Black Bloc destroying shit are of the same two or three store windows. The only thing that was really damaged by the Black Bloc was the Funk The War march. After the Black Bloc, Funk The War never regained their numbers or momentum. Is that worth a few broken windows? Nothing was even looted, for fuck's sake.

I guess I don't understand what exactly was gained by fucking up Macy's that day. Why wait until the RNC to start smashing shit? Why not stay at home and do it there? Honestly, when you guys started breaking windows, EVERYONE in my affinity group thought you guys were cops trying to incite us all to riot - there were so few of us and we were in such an inconsequential location, none of us could understand why people were starting to destroy property unless they were pigs. For real. (At no point did I think the Funk The War bureaucrats were cops.)

I believe in keeping open all tactical possibilities, but I guess I don't believe in confrontation for confrontation's sake, especially when we are so hopelessly outgunned. Is that old activist thinking? Am I not an anarchist because I'd rather wait till we actually have a chance at success? It seems to me this isn't a revolutionary period, this isn't even a proto-revolutionary period. Or is that an un-anarchist way of thinking, too? (For real, do you guys think it is? I'm not being sarcastic or rhetorical.) If so, why? I'm really trying to understand why you think this really quite minor amount of destruction was justified tactically. Or is tactical thinking bureacratic, too? Some Funk The War kid posted a pretty intelligent critique of the Black Bloc that day on the Crimethinc blog. What do you say to their remarks (they posted under the name "magonistarevolt")? http://www.crimethinc.com/blog/2008/09/06/we-told-you-so/

Disclaimer: I'm not affiliated with Funk The War or SDS at all.
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Authored by: Admin on Monday, September 15 2008 @ 10:31 PM UTC
Suggesting that people engaged in vandalism might be police provocateurs is inappropriate for this site. Leave the liberals to their idiotic arguments that protesters NEVER engage in these tactics, so the police must be provoking them.

Let's not dismiss or mystify the agency of those people who chose to engage in these militant tactics.
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Authored by: anony mouse on Monday, September 15 2008 @ 10:44 PM UTC
I don't think the above poster accused anybody of being a police provocateur. what s/he said is that at the time their affinity THOUGHT they were police provocateurs, which is a legitimate observation in such an emotionally charged moment. And not unheard of, either (remember the SPP demonstration in Canada where the pigs were caught on tape?). This, incidentally, is a tactical critique, that the actions described in this article could lead other demonstrators to this belief, breaking down cohesion and solidarity in a conflict situation. If folks had started vocally denouncing the black bloc as provocateurs in the moment of vandalism, yes, it would have been inappropriate, but I don't think that's what is being said.
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Authored by: amoryresistencia on Monday, September 15 2008 @ 11:09 PM UTC
I think that the black bloc folks were indeed trying to incite you to riot. Maybe a little more rioting, and a little less civility on our part,would do us all a bit of good.
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Authored by: offense on Monday, September 15 2008 @ 10:39 PM UTC
Wow there is a lot of hate for this report back!
While it is pretty damn snarky and the attacks on Funk the War are more than a bit harsh I like it because it captures the excitement and feelings of strength that those of us who were in the streets that day felt (well I can only speak for myself). I think it is unfair to assume that those in the Black Bloc were not involved in planning for the event, many like myself were probably unconvinced with the blockade strategy, that while causing confusion did little to disrupt the convention. This bloc fit into the confrontational theme of the day and actually ended up being much more successful than most of the other actions. The bloc faced less repression than the other groups doing blockades faced, and due to its quickness and willingness to fight off police attacks only a few people were arrested.

I don't want to get into a debate about the amount of windows destroyed because it really is besides the point, but the fact of the matter is there WAS a lot of property destroyed. Two banks got almost all of their windows taken out, the Macy's was several blocks from the Xcel center and was likely full of republican delegate shoppers when its windows were smashed out. There were also at least ten police cruisers which had their windows taken out and the tires slashed.

More importantly the bloc showed that unlike many blocs in recent years it would not let lone cops or 'heros' attack us with out us fighting back. The much publicized un-arrest was definitely one of the most heartening things i have seen at a demo in recent years. I personally think that this bloc showed that the time is indeed right for that type of action, there were also many younger folks and funk the war participants who joined in the 'violence' probably excited by being on the offensive for once.

The truth is this action didn't resonate as much as I expected externally, it seems like smashed windows are not as shocking as they once were. Regardless I think it is important to keep on the offensive. I think that this article is right in pointing out that indeed we need to take the intensity seen in the streets on the 1st and start building up our strength at home so next time we are even more powerful.
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Authored by: biofilo on Monday, September 15 2008 @ 11:18 PM UTC

Yes, I want to emphasize that, although I wish the conflict of interest with Funk the War hadn't occurred, I feel that some inspiring things came about during this particular action. My above criticism is only directed at the pretentious, self-important tone and content of this particular reportback. The Acme communique in 1999 was of a much higher caliber.

It's also in poor taste, in my eyes, that they use photos that our enemies are using to prosecute arrestees here in their efforts to glorify their perspective.
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Authored by: Admin on Monday, September 15 2008 @ 11:21 PM UTC
The self-important rhetoric in this piece remind me of a certain anarchist group that annoys me with their self-important manifestos.

I don't have much of a problem with the actions reported by this group, but their attitude begs a question: Why have your insurrection at some damn anti-convention protests? They complain about the spectacle but use the spectacle to stage their own spectacle.
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Authored by: veranasi on Tuesday, September 16 2008 @ 12:29 AM UTC
Funk the War has a history.
http://dc.indymedia.org/newswire/display/142455/index.php
http://dc.indymedia.org/feature/display/131287/index.php

The Black Bloc was the smallest part of the day.

Most of the social war wasn't fought in the larger "black bloc".

The Black Bloc was impossible without the rest of the strategy.
i used thye "un-arrest" in this Les Anarchistes video
Authored by: mr1001nights on Tuesday, September 16 2008 @ 12:47 AM UTC
I included 8 seconds of the RNC "un-arrest" video starting at 3:19 of this video I did the other day youtubeDOTcom/watch?v=BmLlhPEIZ0Y
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Authored by: intifada-oner on Tuesday, September 16 2008 @ 07:05 AM UTC
anony mouse, biofilo, Kristofer.

Are you mad cause the authors styled it on'em? (em meaning yall)
And in the black bloc, the cal was on them?

you mad!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFgXF0a_Yw4
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Authored by: Wargasm on Wednesday, September 17 2008 @ 12:38 AM UTC
Hahah no doubt. You mad, you mad!!!! The cops are goons.... but what's a goon to a goblin??!?!?!!
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Authored by: communitycntrl on Tuesday, September 16 2008 @ 08:02 AM UTC
I object to the use of the phrase "do-gooder" in this article as it is commonly used by the right to describe those who care about someone other than themselves
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Authored by: communitycntrl on Tuesday, September 16 2008 @ 08:43 AM UTC
so , i want to write an article to this effect later, but for now, since i have NO free time right now, i'll just say this synopsis of my feelings:
1) the blockade strategy was an excellent one for various reasons, the reason it didn't go so well was that there was not enough people participating. period. it was a good strategy. it aimed to take the streets and hold them so that we could do what we wanted to do in them (black bloc, beat up delegates, meet new friends, loot, whatever...). the dumb asses who dismissed the strategy should have written criticisms a year ago so their criticisms could have been mulled over and incorporated to make the event better (the joy of anarchy, we all work together, remember....)
2) all you black bloc motherfuckers just came to town with you and your crew of experienced anti-glob folks and didn't bother to fucking ORGANIZE anyone from your cities to go to the RNC to make the actions a success. your idiots for that. because those of us who organized groups of people to go now have new comrades with street action experience, new comrades to continue the struggle with where it takes places every day, in our lives. but hey, i guess it's easier to just show up and meet up with all the old summit-hoppers and break a couple windows and feel like you did something when you didn't do shit because you have nothing to go forward/expand the struggle with.
3)you all are falling RIGHT FUCKING INTO the same mistakes made by those in the 1960s. you say your not trying to bring back the 60s, but what do you think SDS did in 68? the same exact thing you idiots "desired." they didn't organize new people. they just went to a convention and got together with the experienced militant anti-war/radical street fighters and broke windows and cop cars. they were an utter FAILURE. the organizers of this RNC protest were smart enough to realize this problem, and instead of a 3-400 person black bloc, which their certainly could have been if everyone involved in the actions who was willing to just bloced up with y'all instead of trying the blockading strategy, they tried to provide space for all levels of confrontation, action, and ideology to expand the participation in the struggle. DON'T FOLLOW DOWN THE SAME TIRED PATH AS THE 1960s RADICALS! organize and energize new anarchists, fight openly, form coalitions and collaborate with others fighting for a better world. you can reject the political spectacle and the activist role and still organize other people. Organizing and fighting the state and capitalism with others is the task of the revolutionary. Just fighting the state and capitalism without the CRITICAL component of organizing leaves you isolated, following down a path of ever-increasing militancy and decreasing numbers until you are left with the weathermen or some such shit.
4) Funk the war is awesome and i think they are doing some of the best anarchist anti-war shit in the US right now. what have you black blocers done like that lately? writing stupid manifestos and flowery sentences devoid of meaning DOESN"T COUNT.

it would've been nice if everyone had gotten behind the blockade strategy so that when the blockade i was with was undone by the cops, i could've had the liberated SPACE created by other blockades to roam around and have some fun like y'all did. although i think much more would've happened than the paltry damage totals y'all put on the board. this was no WTO bloc of 200 which smashed hundreds of windows. don't fool yourselves. this was not a bloc that will inspire a 2,000 person bloc at the next big demo. i can apprieciate the desire to follow along in your own life track of increasing militancy and increasing disgust/boredom with activism/organizing, but beware heading down the same path as the 60s radicals.

keep it real motherfuckers.
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Authored by: alta fuoco on Tuesday, September 16 2008 @ 07:29 PM UTC
I'm excited to finally see some conversation about this.

To respond to some things in no particular order: Some have mentioned the problematic language of the above report back. I like its mixture of playfulness and use of harder theoretical subjects. It was mentioned elsewhere that it is the story of several authors. With this knowledge, the tone some have been critical of will make more sense. As for the rest of the big kid words, Its encouraging to me that a communique or whatever would engage critically with theoretical subjects (the concept of direct action, activism, recuperation, class struggle and social war, and "state of exception" ) more than simply drawing ethical lines in the sand. The ACME collective communique for example illuminates some aspects of anarchist desire to wreck shit, but keeps to its self much more. "Wrecking you..." communicates, albeit in an antagonistic manor, much more clearly some participants anti-political objectives in taking part in the events of sept 1st. This reflects and interesting development for the US.

The piece fails to notice how the actions it speaks of was likely one component of a larger body, and although its possible such events could have unfolded without the atmosphere of conflict made possible through the year of hype and organizing, it would be unlikely. Nonetheless, "Wrecking you" bites the hand that feeds an a provocative way by exposing not only contradictions within the liberal-left, but also within the anarchist-left/radical activism. I'll be the first to say it. Death to summit-hopping! long live summit-hopping! Something about Hegel's master/slave dialectic...

As for organizing. 1. Do you know how hard it is to get one's old anti-glob/anti-capitalist friends to come out to events? 2. Many, despite their older-age, who partook, were not veterans of Seattle's mythology. Many were simply looking for the exact events of sept 1st--Either those who are attempting the develop class struggle beyond its limitations towards social war, or were perhaps as alluded to by biflio, a union of socio-paths. only History will tell. What is certain is that although people rolled with their friends, it was getting organized that produced this. A challenge to communitycrl and those in a similar camp: Might it be possible to get organized with your friends and form a bond that is simply expressed during these events, rather than making these events the only framework for developing connections? Some links that were made at the RNC will continue, others will not. that's ok. Personally, I met more people, saw more people I've known at their best, ate wonderful food, experimented with old and new techniques and in general feel powerful and linked to a different network than I'd known before precisely. Others, I did not feel connected to and even at times felt hostile to, but thats how these events often play out. Nonetheless, I think it's a myth to think that those who get wild did no organizing.

Your remarks about critique. I think its pretty clear that to critique the RNC protest was sort of heresy. Even so, there are critiques out there, but I think critique and affirmation have become reified in our milieu and tend toward being read as code for ideological leanings. To critique the RNC plan in a paper or something would only connote either an affirmation of the Cindy Milstein position, or that of an imagined unity of people who post on anti-politics.net. I think the critique was most constructive as the thrashing appendages of a wrecking machine, don't you?

Biflio, your comments about "...pretending to sound educated" are preposterous. Some would quickly translate that into "I went to college!" be careful with your denunciations of people's playful use of language, so we can use dangerous words together.

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Authored by: Admin on Tuesday, September 16 2008 @ 07:33 PM UTC
My comments were a bit harsh. I think that language in this piece borders on the annoying, but at the same time, you are right about it's playfulness and its mix of critique and attitude. I appreciate the fact that anarchists are writing pieces like this and it's refreshing to see more "fuck you" attitude coming out of the anarchist movement which is directed at the right targets.

I don't think that it's a stretch to say that the "U.S. anarchist movement is back" after the protests in Denver and St. Paul.

Chuck
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Authored by: MagonistaRevolt on Wednesday, September 17 2008 @ 11:40 AM UTC
which are the right targets you saw targeted in this piece, Chuck?
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Authored by: biofilo on Tuesday, September 16 2008 @ 08:58 PM UTC

I'm disappointed with the denunciations in their language, which I don't think contribute to the possibility of the togetherness I desire. SOCIAL WAR REQUIRES SOCIAL SKILLS, people.

As for going to college--often that just makes it harder for people to communicate. The most straightforward writing I've come across has generally been from people who never had anything to do with academia. It's not a question of using those elitist words correctly--it doesn't matter one way or the other, if few people can understand them--but of communicating in a way that shows that everyone is invited to the discussion. The language of the above piece isn't too obscure, but the the attitude with which it was written says "I don't give a fuck about you" in a way I often associate with academic language (from inside the ivory tower, or from those who envy those who are).
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Authored by: communitycntrl on Tuesday, September 16 2008 @ 11:00 PM UTC
i don't have time to respond to all this, but i just really want to point out and emphasize, because it seems maybe you missed it in my last post, that when i was talking about organizing, i was NOT talking about trying to cajole your old anti-glob friends who've drifted away into coming. i was also NOT talking about organizing with your anti-glob friends who are still around, or your friends at all. i'm talking about doing outreach through your networks of contacts and beyond and asking everyone you encounter if they want to go to St. Paul and disrupt the RNC. i'm saying each and every experienced, anti-glob person who went should have been doing this. i found 20 people that way, most of whom i barely knew, if at all, but all were known through friends or friends of friends. and now some of those people have felt the bonds and strength and fire that burns inside after seeing anarchy in action in the spokescouncil and in the streets. they will be the new blood to add to the remaining anti-glob (and older) people. that was the entire point of the RNC actions, to re-inspire and re-ignite a GROWING anarchist movement, not to get together with your friends and smash shit up one last time for old time's sake. that is what the authors of this piece failed to realize.

this piece should be called "Wrecking Your*self* Again....."

fuck the spectacle. play to win.
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Authored by: veranasi on Tuesday, September 16 2008 @ 10:30 PM UTC
This piece officially begins the mythology of Saint Paul and nothing more.
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Authored by: streamfortyseven on Wednesday, September 17 2008 @ 12:50 AM UTC
And this "mythology" is what, exactly? That anarchists can fight back and defeat elements of a militarized police force, or that they can use hit and run strategy, instead of playing the frontal confrontation game, with the inevitable arrests and fines and sentences which further enrich the System and destroy one's will to resist?

unfortunately, for the 820 (or whatever the number is) people arrested and taken to jail and released on non-refundable bonds, half on felonies, it is mythology, or at least what we understand mythology to be today, which is a false belief from which one derives comfort.

Meanwhile, capitalism this week is destroying itself. Make no mistake about it, the banking system is at risk. There have been numerous articles on Yahoo News alluding to the possibility that ordinary peoples' savings accounts may not be covered by the FDIC (http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budgeting/article/105756/FDIC-Insurance-Protects,-Except-When) "The money paid out to make account holders whole when banks fail comes from the FDIC deposit insurance fund, or DIF. That fund currently totals $52 billion, says Lajuan Williams-Dickerson, an FDIC spokeswoman. Meanwhile, total FDIC-insured deposits ring in at around $4.5 trillion." Before the IndyMac bank in California failed a couple of months back, the DIF had $63 billion. That failure took the DIF down by $11 billion. It appears that Washington Mutual may fail by the end of the week (http://seekingalpha.com/article/95813-the-mess-on-wall-street-4-trillion-down-the-drain) and (http://seekingalpha.com/article/94625-wamu-on-the-brink). It turns out that WaMu has $300 billion in assets, which would be enough to wipe out the DIF six times over....

So draw your own conclusions.

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Authored by: awed on Wednesday, September 17 2008 @ 12:38 AM UTC
everybody, wake up.

capitalism is crashing on wall street as i type this, literally.

our black bloc actions are marginal at best. this is much larger than vandalism. start doing outreach and providing real services. we're going to need it. the government has privatized profit and socialized losses, and it's never been so blatant. never in my lifetime has anti-capitalism seemed so urgently necessary.
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Authored by: Admin on Wednesday, September 17 2008 @ 01:27 AM UTC
Black bloc actions are marginal to many protests, but they can be significant.

The black bloc tactic is something that has been mostly used around larger protests. The black bloc is not anarchism, nor do most anarchists participate in black blocs. The good thing is that the recent convention protests are a good sign that the anarchist and anti-capitalist movements are on the upswing.

Yes, the capitalists are having a bad week on Wall Street, but we shouldn't get too excited. Capitalism is not going to fall by itself any time soon. It needs a push and that where anarchists come in to play--we help organize and agitate people to make that push.

We should really get that book on black blocs published.
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Authored by: Wargasm on Wednesday, September 17 2008 @ 02:13 AM UTC
Alta fuoco, I think, hit the nail on the head, particularly with regards to the language in this piece. It appears that each part of this piece was written by a different person. One gets this impression by looking at the various writing styles and voice changes. I am not sure exactly how it was organized but some things appear clear enough and inspiring. There are many different ideas, passions, and views represented in this piece, which makes it colorful to say the least. It also seems that the authors were having a lot of fun while they assembled this piece, which is what is important.

Peep this line:

We stress that no one has felt a comparable pleasure in America in the last five years. No amount of bodily fluid, mixed with syzurp, swirled together to the sound of Lil
Flowery language cannot hide such EPIC Failure.
Authored by: MagonistaRevolt on Wednesday, September 17 2008 @ 11:32 AM UTC
So you set out to shatter the illusions, shatter the spectacle. Except all you did was reinforce the illusion, and recreate the spectacle. The illusion is that we're not all anarchists, that only white (mostly male) punks who go to protests to break windows are anarchists. You posed for pictures in the press with your anarcho-battle dress uniforms on, and these press guys high-fived one another because their pre-written stories ("the protest of ten thousand was mostly peaceful, until a group of black clad self-described anarchists turned violent...") could go straight to the printer without any editing. You gave the press exactly what they wanted. Now I'm not saying I didn't appreciate the smash-up job on the cop cars and bank. I shed no tears for broken bank windows. But according to the twisting logic of your writeup here, you hate the press, even as you pose for their photos. You wish to corrupt the medium, yet you hand them exactly the story they were planning on covering. Fail.

If social war was your aim, and all you came up with was to go to a mass mobilization and break a few windows and smash up a few cars, you fail. Maybe it might enlighten you to learn the major difference between a police riot and a riot. During a police riot, there may or may not be provocation, but the police have showed up prepared to injure others for the sake of "law and order." A couple of windows get smashed, maybe a couple of officers get injured. But the momentum is on the side of the police. During a riot, the police are caught off-guard and have to send away for assistance. Looting, arson, vandalism, police are attacked by mobs, cars are overturned. Momentum is on the side of the rioters. If this is your aim, why show up to the one place in the country where $50 million was spent on outfitting police with all the necessary armor and chemical weapons to put down such an uprising?

You set out to undermine the bureaucrats, or at least to ignore them, and you failed at this as well. According to the media, (Time, Newsweek, the New York Times, etc. etc.) Funk the War was responsible for the broken windows and destroyed squad cars. And when the organizers of Funk the War were told to "FUCK OFF" when we asked you to change the direction of your smashing South, towards the RNC delegates instead of North, we peeled off. The media continued to cover every move you made as Funk the War. It was not us who carried our careers in our palms afterall. It was YOU who carried it. You gave Funk the War credibility, and likely invigorated SDS as a result. Whew. What a complete failure. Your lone voice in the blogosphere that you not only aren't Funk the War, but you hate Funk the War and its organizers, is completely drowned out in the international chorus that you ARE Funk the War. Ha! Irony and Failure!

"Our momentum necessarily severs from any objectives outlined in any spokes council."
A revealing line. Anarchists, necessarily, play well with others, and use anarchist forms to do so. So you fail at anarchism as well.

You've failed your way into a corner. Why would folks give you crowd cover if they knew you showed only open disdain for them? Who is going to work with you again after you admit, publicly, that you set out to commandeer their event and that they are your enemy? You aren't as anonymous as you think, after all. You've blown your wad. And this was all you had? This was your moment of social war, unlikely to be repeated anytime soon because specific people took specific actions for a specific occasion, and you broke a couple of windows? How are you not embarassed to post reportbacks on failures like this?
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Authored by: HPWombat on Wednesday, September 17 2008 @ 12:08 PM UTC
Interesting criticisms. Thanks for adding to the conversation.

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embrace the dork side
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Authored by: alta fuoco on Wednesday, September 17 2008 @ 01:46 PM UTC
communityctrl. We have a few fundamental divergences in "how." I don't think we should get organized with random people who share similar political identities; rather with people who share similar material and existential conditions. I like to feel connected and supported so I get organized with people I connect to and support. We engage critically with ideas, but we're not all magnetized through politics or particular political events. Does this make sense? You say "organize! anyone!" I say "get organized, with your peers." We both want to feel connected after the plateau of a demo, but I have tried the former way and I feel more connected with the latter.

The "entire point" of these events to me is not to "re-inspire, and re-ignite the anarchist movement," it is rather a petri-dish to experiment with the power and capacity of our social force to tap into the tendency towards social conflict and amplify it. It is a modest objective I think we can often achieve.

magonista, I can't speak for everybody who took part in the limited rioting, but I think if what is above was anywhere close to a shared objective, the event achieved its goals.

I think we are speaking from two different positions, both perhaps in the world, and withing the anarchist milieu. This isn't particularly a problem for us, but we should notice these differences and affirm the validity of the perspective. I can affirm the perspective and position of the anarchist-activist, I can also critique it, both in words and in action. To be clear, I'm unconcerned with political identities so it does'nt bother me that the above events would as you say "fail" as anarchism. I think the event, as a deterritorializing and dehierarchicalizing force, totally succeeded at spreading anarchy. I'm not sure if anyone had any illusions of provoking total social war or whatever and I think that is also the wrong framework. If social war is a conceptual model of historical contradictions and conflict making a rupture, a development of class struggle beyond it's limitations, then it is not something to be achieved as such, rather something to contribute to. Something that one and one's actions are produced through.

As for the media. No one posed for pictures. There's a reason there's not more pictures and video. For example see Channel Four's report...

No one blew their wad, they simply reached another plateau. If there's more history, there's more to come.
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Authored by: intifada-oner on Wednesday, September 17 2008 @ 04:35 PM UTC
MagonistaRevolt. Listen college kid, maybe once you have to pay your loans back or get beat up by a real cop (not the rental cops on campuses), breaking banks or piggies won't be a trivial thing to you. If you stop sucking after college, it will be self-evident why someone, anyone, who me, yeah you, somebody, anybody, would want to do either. Maybe after you receive a degree, and this receipt will endow you with the reading comprehension skills necessary to grasp that the authors certainly weren't concerned with any of your aforementioned goals. Isn't that what college is for anyway. I dont know, maybe Funk the War is digging a new silicon valley, i dont know. Media approval, getting delegates gassed, or working with you (oh manager of activist party politics) were not something they were striving for. Obviously. This is clearly stated in the article.

Plus, who would want to work with a bunch of kids that look like M.I.A. and Richard Simmon's retarded children. Please. I mean, come on, the black bloc fitted stylishly in the prettiest black clothes, while your glasses wearing leader looks like a color-blind Clark Kent. Whatever, play Super-man end up like Chris Reeves. Marvelous.

The spectacle is a concrete inversion of life, an autonomous movement of the nonliving. The black bloc seemed to have parasitically sucked Funk the War's life. Hence, spectacle shattered due movement of the living but life was on some dracula shit. Cute, clever, morbid. Probably not.

The situation counteracting the spectacle was constructed in St. Paul on Monday, likely from your life force MagonistaRevolt. I'm sure you, as a fuel, enriched the precarious subjects dripped in black. If you had more heart, they might have procured some ice to go along with their the black attire. The situation featuring social conflict is the new jam for the chilrens. As beautiful as it must have been to endure the situation created, self-management of reality is no longer the end goal. The fabric that binds reality must be torn and rivets of capital must be unfastened with social force. To desire is to desire the production of reality itself. Quote second to last paragraph End Quote.
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Authored by: biofilo on Wednesday, September 17 2008 @ 06:36 PM UTC

Now here we have a real jerk, the kind that is drawn to this kind of negative garbage. Whoever you are, I hope I never have to cooperate with you on anything.
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Authored by: Wargasm on Wednesday, September 17 2008 @ 05:42 PM UTC
It seems my dear friend Magons
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Authored by: MagonistaRevolt on Wednesday, September 17 2008 @ 06:50 PM UTC
Clearly I was targeting not you, the commenter, but the writers of this article.

"a lot of people who are tired of business as usual."
so they played to the exact stereotype of the anarchist?
so they tried nothing new, but did what they always do, a little harder?

"Why are people here so outraged by, what I see, as a call for an unrestrained revolt?"
It is not their revolt that causes outrage, but their unneccessarily disrespecting other anarchists, especially the ones they clung to for crowd cover. It is the sense of betrayal, that we gave crowd cover for folks, we risked our bodies for them, and they turned around and yelled, "FUCK YOU," then went home to brag about how they were so rad on their little blog. Its the betrayal that even though we felt slighted, used even, on the day of the protest, we kept quiet and even defended their actions to others, and to no avail, because these folks have no comradeship with us. It hurts to be used. It hurts to be betrayed. It hurts to be slighted. And the authors know this. Its not even that they don't care. They delight in hurting other anarchists. Why should we bother giving them crowd cover? Why should we bother defending them?
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Authored by: Wargasm on Thursday, September 18 2008 @ 03:15 PM UTC
It seems you didn
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Authored by: Admin on Thursday, September 18 2008 @ 04:19 PM UTC

So you set out to shatter the illusions, shatter the spectacle. Except all you did was reinforce the illusion, and recreate the spectacle. The illusion is that we're not all anarchists, that only white (mostly male) punks who go to protests to break windows are anarchists. You posed for pictures in the press with your anarcho-battle dress uniforms on, and these press guys high-fived one another because their pre-written stories ("the protest of ten thousand was mostly peaceful, until a group of black clad self-described anarchists turned violent...") could go straight to the printer without any editing. You gave the press exactly what they wanted. Now I'm not saying I didn't appreciate the smash-up job on the cop cars and bank. I shed no tears for broken bank windows. But according to the twisting logic of your writeup here, you hate the press, even as you pose for their photos. You wish to corrupt the medium, yet you hand them exactly the story they were planning on covering. Fail.

Your comments are more of the same hand-wringing leftism. Boring.

If your movement can't break a couple of fucking bank windows, then it's not worth taking seriously when it comes to talking about revolution or serious social change.

You also don't get that these people don't care about the press. Fuck, I don't give a shit what the press says like I used to. Funk the media.

Chuck

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Authored by: i95 on Wednesday, September 17 2008 @ 06:48 AM UTC
hey everyone, just a reminder, there was a mass arrest (50-60 people) on temperance street that day that, while not connected to the activities described in the article, happened shortly thereafter, and the prosecutors will probably try to pull some nonsense and pin a lot of the property destruction on those people. please at least take the pictures down while these cases are open.
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Authored by: awed on Wednesday, September 17 2008 @ 02:08 PM UTC
it's sad how, at protests, so many people stand around with digital cameras waiting for something to happen.
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Authored by: awed on Wednesday, September 17 2008 @ 11:19 PM UTC
this may be off-topic, but did anybody catch the fact that sarah palin's yahoo email account was hacked and posted on various websites? one news article claimed that a 'left-wing' group of hackers were responsible. it turns out that a group of hacktivists known as Anonymous were behind it. does anybody have any insight about this group? their organization almost strikes me as a black bloc unleashed on the net
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Authored by: awed on Thursday, September 18 2008 @ 12:23 AM UTC
another story:

this one is unbelievable - there is a new movie out called 'battle in seattle' about the WTO protests. it stars, among others: woody harrelson, ray liotta, and charlize theron. anarchists are main characters. the appropriation of black bloc imagery by the spectacle has become so obvious, so blatant, as to be completely banal. see: battleinseattle.com
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Authored by: nebuchadnezzar38 on Thursday, September 18 2008 @ 12:39 AM UTC
Anonymous is the name used for groups who participate in anti-Scientology demonstrations, that's the only time i've seen it used.
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Authored by: streamfortyseven on Thursday, September 18 2008 @ 01:09 AM UTC
So are "naked short sellers" a black bloc unleashed upon capitalism? See http://seekingalpha.com/article/95956-morgan-stanley-in-the-crosshairs?source=wildcard ... If Washinton Mutual, the largest savings bank in the US goes under, as it might, this wipes out the FDIC and leaves people with savings accounts associated with WaMu with the possibility of getting (maybe) ten cents on the dollar for their deposits. The only way that revolution was averted in the mid-1930s was for President Roosevelt to bring in the New Deal.
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Authored by: generaluser on Thursday, September 18 2008 @ 02:38 AM UTC
Hey MagonistaRevolt, the black bloc was NOT clinging to Fuck the War for crowd cover, the bloc ending up being a larger crowd comparatively. The end result was a small group of Funk the War people who were at the BACK of the march and clung to the black bloc for some unknown reason while simultaneously condemning it. The black bloc several times made clear that it was breaking from Funk the War, as evident by it being in front of the overall crowd, yet Funk the War kept following. Why? Probably because most of them (Except a few people) were so delighted with the actions before their eyes that they wanted to see more and even participate.

Also, the bureaucrats of Funk the War (I only saw one, but clearly you are another) were pleading for peace, so they rightfully deserve every "fuck you" they receive. The one person who was attempting to manage the crowd who was the target of much of the deserved verbal abuse was screaming "Stop it!" as people smashed windows and "This wasn't supposed to be a riot!" among other sickening liberal tripe.

Anyone who "feels bad" about what happened is a moron. Who the fuck has a sad face on after all the amazing shit that happened? Even if it were true, who the fuck would be sad that a mediocre street party was driven into a riot? It's really concerning to think that people would rather have had none of these great actions happen and would rather have let Funk the War (Who by the way, EXCITEDLY INVITED the bloc along with them at a spokescouncil and should have known its intentions but clearly were too inept to understand them) run its course, leaving only a few stickers and memories of Rage Against the Machine songs in people's minds, which would have left a lot of failed blockades and nothing interesting coming out of the RNC at all. I guess people should have been "respectful" but not engaging in what they desired to do. A lot of the criticism being leveled is from people that either weren't actively involved in the actual event, weren't at the meetings where the spokesperson of Funk the War misled people into believing they were all about what they later were hostile to, or were one of these people who are purposely distorting facts after the fact.

And just for the record, even though people went seriously out of their way to break away from Funk the War and not ruin their parade, I doubt many people would feel bad about actually "ruining" any of these events with destruction.

- Less tie-dye, more fire
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Authored by: Wargasm on Thursday, September 18 2008 @ 02:49 PM UTC
Ahhh so it appears there is a bigger picture to this story, as I figured. The selective outrage seemed to be masking something a little more sinister. : ) Thanks for the clarification. It was needed.
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Authored by: sweet tea on Friday, September 19 2008 @ 04:17 PM UTC
I dont comment on these kinds of things often. Public yet anonymous forums seem a poor place for good communication, as i think these comments have clearly shown. But i am glad this discussion is taking place, in some sense, as im glad that we dont all agree. I think im in a strange place here. I agree full heartedly with most attacks on "protest managers" and proffessional activism as it mainfests itself, but like many anarchists in the US, come at least partly from a place of "activism", and therefore maintain an understanding and empathy with that approach and mentality. Were it not for inclusively oriented, participatory strategies like the one we organized in St. Paul, i wouldnt be here. I bet thats true of many of the authors who wrote this piece. Its worth thinking about, the next time one writes a dismissive or rude piece like this one.

The most important thing for us to recognize, I think, about the victories (and defeats) we had in St. Paul was that they all happened because of all of us. The black bloc would not have been possible without the blockading the strategy, the tear gas canisters thrown back by antiwar students would not have been shot were it not for the bloc's inititiation into conflict, the possibility of thousands of folks witnessing full on a police state could not have happened that day without the large anti war march. That doesnt mean we will always need permitted peace marches or civil disobedience, but it is a part of the ekwation that we currently must factor in.

As for now, we all have a lot of support work to do for the people who are facing felonies, especially for the RNC 8, whose charges set a nasty legal precedent for any and all direct action organizing in the US. And of course, solidarity also means attack.

I would kwote another who wrote on the "battle of the river," as i think it will come to be called:

"Do not disparage each other. None of what went on along the river could have been without the help of EVERYONE there. Our lone enemy is powerful enough. We do not need to make more enemies out of potential friends. Godspeed, you heathens. Our paths have crossed and they will cross again. Until they do, move quickly, move firmly and, above all, never stop."

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Authored by: nostalgia on Monday, September 22 2008 @ 11:49 AM UTC
First things first "Plus, who would want to work with a bunch of kids that look like M.I.A. and Richard Simmon's retarded children. Please. I mean, come on, the black bloc fitted stylishly in the prettiest black clothes"

But why did ya'll have those tight ass pants on? Seriously. I saw the pictures man, I know.

The tone of the article clearly borders on assholish. And that's fine by me. It's refreshing to read an anarchist text that has an interesting perspective, instead of the same tired ass communique style.

No apologists here either, which is commendable.

This article seems to be very contentious. I understand why, of course. But it's important to understand that people will take the actions they feel are necessary, effective, or fun in a given situation. Seriously. The authors engaged in the activities they mentioned because they were fun. And why not? Everyday people are subjected to long ass work days, accosted by corporate loss prevention, and bombarded by images designed to induce spending. Alienated both in production and consumption.

Social revolution is a dynamic process. None of us really know what actions are or are not conducive to this scenario. I do believe that it's important to understand that, when liberated from the tethers of the morality of the economy, if only momentarily, people will behave as their desires dictate. In those moments of widespread collective disobedience, whether in riots over police brutality or afterschool snatch and grabs at convenience stores, people act to satiate their desires. And as none of us are prophets of the impending revolution, it's a bit presumptuous to say "do smash this" and "don't smash that", "smash that at this time but not at this time". Combatants don't tend to be interested in adhering to the dictates of internet revolutionaries.

It's also incredibly erroneous to assume that the actors in this article only organize within their circles and talk to no one else. How the FUCK were there enough people to have a damn black bloc if at some point these people didn't organize with people outside of their circles? How do they even have these circles in the first place if they never do any outreach?

Also, its presumptuous to pretend to know that the authors dont engage in any other activities. Like they spent their whole lives waiting for september 1 2008. How do any of us know that in their daily lives they don't steal from corporations, skip work to share food with friends, and smash the occasional window?

Basically, I'm not sure that I fully understand what everyone's so damn salty about. Some windows got smashed, some didn't. These debates go nowhere. People who want to destroy stores will do so, and those who don't will refrain.