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Right-wingers whine about their beatdown at the inauguration

Right Wing NutsThe silly "Protest Warriors" -- usually right-wing, pro-war, pro-Bush college students -- relate the tale of the beatdown administered during the inauguration in 2005. Poster's comments in italics. Let the laughter begin!

We covered about twenty feet before a group of five anarchist-punks came over to us, and demanded our exit. Their exact words were "Fascists out!," but it was not until later that the irony of that demand became apparent to us.

This is a recurring theme -- that somehow anarchists are guilty of violating liberal statist principles of "free speech" when giving the heave-ho to right-wing instigators.

When we refused to acquiesce to their unreasonable demand -- we had a Constitutional right to be there, as well as permission from the DAWN head organizer --

-- neither of which are recognized as legimitate authorities by anarchists --

they continued with the name-calling and cursing, making a show of trying to intimidate us. As we stood there - the anarchists demanding our immediate exit and we refusing to comply - a crowd of anarchists began to gather around us. As I noticed this, I immediately told Jesse to watch his back, and told my ProtestWarriors to get closer together. I remembered the RNC, and was not looking foward to a repeat of the violence there.

But that's exactly what he got!

Our interaction with the anarchists quickly worsened; they began grabbing at our signs, and attempting to rip them out of our hands. We held on tight, and told them to lay off. As they began shoving us, a man who identified himself as a "DAWN marshal" ran over and stepped in between our two groups. "You can not do that here!" he shouted at the anarchists. "This is a peaceful rally!"

Funny, I don't remember signing any "peaceful rally" contracts before being allowed into the Washington DC city limits?

When they directed their vitriol at the DAWN marshal - actually shoving him and threatening him with further violence - he whirled around and began berating us. "You're instigating!" he told us. "You have to leave!" I attempted to placate him, explaining that we were there with permission from the organizer, but he was beyond reason. He was unable to do anything but call the ProtestWarriors "instigators." As we watched him struggle to restrain the anarchists, we were momentarily dumbfounded. Here was a man who had not only witnessed the violence of the anarchists, but was currently subjected to it - and yet he was blaming us for what was clearly unprovoked intimidation. We wondered at the moral relativism that must be at work in this man's brain, enabling him to blame the victim for the crime.

As silly as the peace-cop was, he saw right through the Protest Warriors. Of course they were instigating! What they were counting on was a bunch of gasps and indignation from liberals. They were not counting on encountering us.

When it became obvious that the DAWN marshal was not going to take ProtestWarrior's side in the matter, I decided to ignore him and told my ProtestWarriors to stay where they were. "We're not going anywhere," I told both the marshal and the anarchists. Things then began to get tense; a heavy-set black man in a trench coat patted his left lapel, muttering something about a pipe. When he saw that we weren't leaving, he made a grab for one of our signs. I stepped in to get between him and the ProtestWarrior, and was tripped by one of the anarchists. At that moment, all hell broke loose.

The minute I hit the ground, all hell broke loose. As I struggled to get up in the slippery snow, two anarchists began kicking me in the back; ProtestWarriors were being shoved and punched all around me. The DAWN marshal struggled to stop the anarchists' assault. When I finally got to my feet, I went over to the marshal, telling the ProtestWarriors to stop everything and not touch a single person; with the anarchists cursing at us, and my ProtestWarriors yelling back, we nearly had a riot on our hands. The marshal told us to leave, and this time I complied. We had came, we had caught the Leftists on tape, and we had made our point. There was no sense in endangering our bodies or lives by staying any longer.

This confrontation, along with some black bloc footage, is included on the video featured at the Protest Warrior site.

As we left, we continued to be harassed by the anarchists; it seemed that our exit was not enough to satiate their bloodlust. They shoved us, cursed at us, and grabbed at our signs. I asked one of the anarchists what more they wanted from us; we were already leaving. He responded with a tone of cold hatred, "We want you to move faster, Nazi." I was dumbfounded - they were forceably marching us out their rally, and had the audacity (or the stupidity) to call us Nazis. "Mach shnell, Juden, eh?" I muttered. As the rest of the ProtestWarriors exited the park, and Jesse and I backed out of the park (there was no way we were turning our backs on such criminals), I asked one of the anarchists why he covered his face; his response belied their entire purpose and function at the DAWN rally: "So we can f*** you up and get away with it."

This is the most amusing part of the whole thing -- the idea that fascists, nationalists and their ilk should not be resisted with physical force. By this twisted logic, seen so often on the right, anyone who takes action against fascists is actually a fascist; anyone who takes action against racism is a racist; anyone who takes action against sexism is a sexist; and so on and so forth. You see it in the response to "outing" tactics used by BlogActive.com and any mention whatsoever of the public sexual preferences of various relatives of right-wingers: anyone who takes action against homophobia is a homophobe.

The Protest Warriors are, and will always be, nothing more than an amusing sideshow and incidental target for us at large actions. Source

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Perspective
Authored by: Anonymous on Saturday, April 02 2005 @ 11:46 PM UTC
We've got to rmember I think that Protest Warriors are just doing to us what Michael Moore does to them.

Sure we don't think they're funny, but they don't think Moore is funny.

It's just a thought that we don't want to come across to Protest Warriors constitutent audience as humorless as Michael Moore's victims come across to us.

Oh and by all means obliterate them if you find them on the street, just remember that they're trying to make a joke of us.
Perspective
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, April 03 2005 @ 01:08 PM UTC
I don't think Michael Moore is too funny, either.
Analysis.
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, April 03 2005 @ 03:15 AM UTC
These idiots whine about being met with physical force when their message boards are FULL of their own advocating the assault, torture and murder of ideological opponents. Of course they usually do it under the guise of "we're just joking", which is their easy out from having to justify their desires. When we suffer, they laugh. When we die, they applaud. They are exactly what they claim to stand against. That said, I think people shouldn't give them the conflict they want. Watch them, expose them when they try to infiltrate protests with their inane, mass-produced patriotic drivel, but don't mix it up with them unless you're defending yourself or someone else from an immediate physical threat. Believe me, I got a good laugh seeing these "warriors" get their asses kicked by people they think are weak and wimpy. Even better was the "I told them not to fight back because those nasty anarchists had pipes and knives!" explanation for why, contrary to most of the board posts at their site, none of the PWs present left "trails of dead anarchists" behind them. But they're going to use this. They're all ready talking about getting their own pepper spray and other "non-lethal" weapons to use against those nasty anarchists. Some of them have discussed using "bear spray", which as the name implies is pepper spray formulated to drive off large bears and not average-sized humans. I don't even want to think about what that would do to a person. What really worries me is what I'm not seeing but I know is being discussed away from prying eyes; actual lethal weapons like knives and firearms. I'm afraid someone is going to end up dead because one of these cowards is going to get the idea to claim they were in fear for their life. I know damn well that whether they were in danger or not, the odds are good the coward's associates will lie on their behalf. Every day they are edging closer to open violence. If you must confront them, which sometimes is absolutely necessary, do NOT do so without someone filming, so they will know they won't be able to engage in violence without it being recorded. Also be very careful about being in close physical proximity, especially when dealing with more than one of them. If you're within arm's reach or closer, you could be stabbed or shot without anyone being able to see how it happened or who did it. I am not saying to be afraid of them, as most bullies of this nature thrive on fear, they get off on it. Just be aware of them, who they are and what they're like. Despite all of the freedom and liberty bullshit they spew continually, many of them would gladly shoot us in the back and leave us to bleed in the street if they thought for a second they could do so and get away with it. I don't want to see any of you become a statistic because one of these little wannabe Brownshirts someday gets up the guts to do what the rest of them only "joke" about.
Analysis.
Authored by: hotdog holler on Sunday, April 03 2005 @ 08:34 AM UTC
I'm not sure I agree with that. I read their forum boards pretty regularly and they all seem rather proud of themselves for respecting the law and their belief in an "orderly" society. Of course, there are a few of them that are just raving lunatics. If anything, they're more interested in videotaping some protestor beating one of them up. Then that video becomes a big propoganda tool: "the left hates freedom and beat us up and we were only freely expressing ourselves like the constitution allows, bla, bla, bla..."

Also, they don't pay much mind to anarchists specifically, because their hatred of plain ol' liberals is just comical and through the roof. Instead, they laugh at us and post pictures of the guy with the huge testicles at the Bay Area Anarchist Bookfair (hey, I laughed, too) and a picture of an info table that has a copy of Churchill's "On the Justice..." right next to the Unabomber Manifesto.

Any response that we make to them, they think that that signifies that they're "on the right track." It's actually pretty funny how they justify anything we do to mean that they're effective.
Analysis.
Authored by: SiberioS on Sunday, April 03 2005 @ 03:08 PM UTC
I think the right wing patriot movement and its ilk are pretty damn crazy, and I would not want to have anyone injured because one of their loose cannons decide to invoke his second amendment right and shoot someone, or possibly knife someone. They're afterall, would require little provocation to do anything of the sort , and I don't think its worth it to give the bastards an opportunity.

As someone mentioned with the idea of infiltrating anti-abortion rallies with hilarious, over the top signs, I think we can more creatively counter them. Their politics, after all, are boring as fuck.
Right-wingers whine about their beatdown at the inauguration
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, April 03 2005 @ 11:22 AM UTC
it'd be fun to use similiar tactics of disruption and confusion of message at protests right-wingers have. like a bunch of anarchists going to an anti-abortion rally and having signs that say "Nuke the USA because abortion is legal here" or other such insanity. ad try to do interview with reporters and say crazy shit, try and start crazy chants, and jsut run around screaming a raving like a bunch of loony tunes. that oughta discredit those folks some, as well as being annoying and embarrassing to the point that it discourages some of the people from coming to the next protest even!
Right-wingers whine about their beatdown at the inauguration
Authored by: Red on Sunday, April 03 2005 @ 11:37 AM UTC
wow.... that video was halarious!

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"Liberty is the mother of order, not its daughter."
Right-wingers whine about their beatdown at the inauguration
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, April 03 2005 @ 12:23 PM UTC
Pieces of shit, I'm glad this happened, it was awesome. People should
do this more often, although lets not get too sidetracked because in the
end they are nothing, they're a speck of dust, easily beaten,
the main focus should be our real goals, but sure if you've got some
spare time, why not kick the shit out of a fascist? I was at the March
19th protest in NYC. There was ONE, literally ONE of these idiots and
this asshole was protected by three cops around a tiny little cage he'd
built. And I make no exaggeration when I say that he was indeed
wearing a nazi armband. That's the kind of people these dicks are.
They're fascists, nazis, they don't hide it either.
Right-wingers whine about their beatdown at the inauguration
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, April 03 2005 @ 02:01 PM UTC
These guys are right-wing authoritorian nationalists. Their are many types of right-wing nationalists.

Calling these guys Nazis is at best a form of hyperbole, at worst, it is ignorance.

It reminds me of when right-wingers equate anarchists with Stalinists, Leninists, Maoists, Castroist, or the Communist Party - or with Democrats or any other political parties. This is pure ignorance.

Know thy enemy in all of its manifestations.
Right-wingers whine about their beatdown at the inauguration
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, April 03 2005 @ 07:03 PM UTC
um... a NATIONAL SOCIALIST is just the english TRANSLATION of the word Nazisocialiste (sp?)

When you say "Nazi" you arent just referring to a specific german party, but an ideology

*ANY* person who wants corporate control of all aspects of life and advocates totalitarian submission to the state is BY DEFINITION a Nationalist Socialist - It doesnt matter what they call themselves

only a white supremacist that thinks Jews Gypsies etc. are more "significant" victims would say the Nazis are "special" or that comparisons with mass murderers on an exactly simialr or worse) scale are "hyperbole"

Either that, or a person who isnt aware of the scale of the murder Amerikkka has commited
Right-wingers whine about their beatdown at the inauguration
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, April 04 2005 @ 08:20 AM UTC
"um... a NATIONAL SOCIALIST is just the english TRANSLATION of the word Nazisocialiste (sp?)"

No. National Socalism is more generic; Naz refers specifically the National Socialist German Workers Party (Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei).
Right-wingers whine about their beatdown at the inauguration
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, April 04 2005 @ 04:02 PM UTC
Nazism also called National Socialism is a type of fascist/totalitarian ideology.

The necocons, Bush-worshipping right-wing American Nationalist ideologues, are fascist in their ideology but not national socialist. American fascism is of a different stripe than Nazism.

See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconservatism_%28United_States%29
Right-wingers whine about their beatdown at the inauguration
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, April 03 2005 @ 09:34 PM UTC
Aren't these type of people just extremely deluded working-class/middle-class people.

I hate right wing *thought* but these *people* aren't the economic or political elite they're just confused dopes who lached onto this type of group for a myriad of reasons.

I'm not saying don't confront their marches or something....I don't really know what I'm saying....

I'm just pointing out the difference between these people and the actual right-wing elite. I'm sure the elite likes it that there are little groups of people that are unquestioning and in-love with them but little groups like these are not the Repuclican party elite or right-wing "intellectuals" from some think-tank, corporate leaders, or some media schill....

I wish I could convert them....
Though I'm starting to think some of them have some serious emotional problems that make them so attracted to these views...
Right-wingers whine about their beatdown at the inauguration
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, April 04 2005 @ 08:25 AM UTC
The "protest warriors" I have encountered at demos seem to be young, middle to upper class college Republican jocks. I don't know that they have much working class representation in their group. At least not that I've seen.
Right-wingers' whining full of falsehood
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, April 04 2005 @ 03:36 PM UTC

It should not surprise anybody to know that the PWs' version of events is distorted. The original poster who interpolated his comments with the PW article seems to assume that it's largely accurate, even though the highly edited and repetitious video doesn't show anywhere near the degree of violence reported.

Anyway, there's some discussion of the article's falsehoods in the following article and its comments:

Protest Warriors instigate at DAWN J20 rally then spread propaganda

Incidentally, I'm not endorsing the pacifist moralizing found therein, just the debunking of inflated PW claims.

Right-wingers' whining full of falsehood
Authored by: Anonymous on Monday, April 04 2005 @ 04:15 PM UTC
Typical, predictable peace officer ("peace marshall") response . The pathology of pacifism is pathetic. These liberal are begging the government to take away our guns. They would have done the same during the rise of power of Stalin, Hitler, and Mao.
Right-wingers whine about their beatdown at the inauguration
Authored by: Anonymous on Sunday, April 10 2005 @ 01:11 AM UTC
A couple of the comments suggest that the protest warriors are insignificant and not worth our time. Bullshit! Fascism of any stripe is significant. It doesn't matter if they are college republicans, neo - nazis, cops, corporate elites or politicians. They ought to be dealt with, at the very least, in the way shown on the video.

No fascist sympathy!